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Old 12-27-2004, 02:52 AM
snowbank snowbank is offline
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Default How far do you push with KK?

Say you have KK, and you raise pre-flop. You are re-raised all-in. You have no read on your opponent. How often are you calling? Let's say you have even stacks for the max buy-in.
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Old 12-27-2004, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: How far do you push with KK?

You left out the most important information -- the size of your raise and the size of your stacks. It also makes a difference if you're playing PP .25/.5, UB 25/50, or 10/20 at the Bellagio.
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Old 12-27-2004, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: How far do you push with KK?

Assuming you are playing 200 buy-in or below, and you raised to at least 4xBB, I am calling 100% of the time. If someone in EP raises and I re-raise and he pushes, then I may fold if I view him as particularly tight or if I have a stack significantly over the max buy-in, but otherwise I am calling. I just get shown QQ, JJ, AK too often to fold.
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Old 12-27-2004, 05:55 AM
Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! Piz0wn0reD!!!!!! is offline
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Default Re: How far do you push with KK?

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Say you have KK, and you raise pre-flop. You are re-raised all-in. You have no read on your opponent. How often are you calling? Let's say you have even stacks for the max buy-in.

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99.9%
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Old 12-27-2004, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: How far do you push with KK?

How bout if one guy raises pre-flop, another guy raises him, and you call. The original raiser pushes, as does the guy who raised him. Now you have 2 all-ins. Still call 100% of the time?
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: How far do you push with KK?

I play 25NL at Party almost exclusively, so its not the best sample set, but I ALWAYS push my stack with KK no matter how many in or raising or reraising. The way I look at it, if you have KK and someone has AA then the Gods are punishing you for hubris and you deserve it.

Seriously though, in the long run you'll get AA vs. KK on the good end and the bad end equally, so that evens out. In all other situations, you're a favortie, often a big favorite. You're making money even in a ten way pot when there is no AA.

EDIT: By ALWAYS push my stack, I mean when given the oppertunity. I don't just throw it in and hope for a call.
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:29 PM
BK_ BK_ is offline
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Default Re: How far do you push with KK?

you have to know that the answer to this question is it depends. it is like asking should you call a river bet with one pair.
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: How far do you push with KK?

The only way I don't call is if I have info that indicates that the player is extremely tight. Timid players only push all of their chips in with AA and sometimes KK. Against anyone else I call.
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