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Old 12-24-2004, 05:57 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default A hand with an easy answer

This is based off a hand I just played and a few things I've seen people post lately. Hopefully, everyone who posts here should answer it the same way.

This is a Step 1, 10+1 SNG, or, I dunno, insert some lower buyin here. It's level 1 so you have no read.

Some dude limps UTG. You have AA-JJ in MP1 so you make it 60 and get an LP caller. UTG calls.

The flop is 886, 997 or TT5. It could have two suits or three but let's say it has two.

UTG bets 60 into the pot of 200. You raise to 150. He goes all in.

You...
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Old 12-24-2004, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: A hand with an easy answer

I'd call up doyle and see what he would do.
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Old 12-24-2004, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: A hand with an easy answer

I find this is almost always trips.
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Old 12-24-2004, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: A hand with an easy answer

Fold (but this had to be decided before re-raising UTG). Most likely UTG has trips and is his protecting hand from straight/flush draws. Unlikely (but possible) that UTG flopped quads. Quads would become "calling stations" allowing oppoenents to bet into their nut hand.

Only outs Hero would have would be to catch the 2 outer to a full boat.

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Old 12-24-2004, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: A hand with an easy answer

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I'd call up doyle and see what he would do.

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I'd come over to 2+2, call up Gigabet, who would in turn call up Doyle, and break into my "time bank".
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Old 12-24-2004, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: A hand with an easy answer

I would call; level 1 low-buyin players will do this with too many hands besides trips to justify folding.
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Old 12-24-2004, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: A hand with an easy answer

I don't think I'd say that this hand has an easy answer. I would actually consider calling here. The main factors are the buy-in, the possible flush draw, the fact that you have 200 chips invested at the time of the push, and the fact that the Pusher opened the betting on the flop.

Against tough opponents, it's common for a preflop caller to lead into the raiser when they flop a strong hand. This is a strong play, but not an intuitive one. At the lower buy-ins, trips and sets are almost always slowplayed, often incorrectly. On a board like this, at the lower buy-ins, the person who opens the action on the flop is least likely to have trips. Furthermore, if they did bet with trips, they would be delighted at the raise, and probably just call. The raise all-in appears to desire a fold.

A weak opponent would likely make this play with any pocket pair, bottom pair, a flush draw, and perhaps some other hands. All of these possibilities are more likely than trips.

I really try not to get involved for all my chips in the early stages, so I might still lean towards folding, if it wasn't for the fact that you were already invested for a fourth of your chips. At that point, taking your chances becomes a much better option.

All in all, I'd say calling here is probably a profitable play in the long run.

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Old 12-25-2004, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: A hand with an easy answer

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Step 1, 10+1 SNG,

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The strategies in these two tourneys are significantly different.
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Old 12-25-2004, 03:49 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: A hand with an easy answer

True, but the caliber of player is the same in both (if anything, it's worse in Step 1) and the play should be identical. You can argue that chips are less important in a Step but during L1 I don't think it makes that much of a difference.
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Old 12-26-2004, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: A hand with an easy answer

I'd fold everything but Ace Ace.

The reason I'd treat AA seperately is I see three possible ways to win.

A. Your opponent is on the bluff.
B.He was limping on JJ, QQ, KK.
C.The AxS which got his bottom pair would likely make a bet of 60, and possibly would semibluff reraise because he thinks you are on two high cards and totally missed the raise.
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