Are you NUTS!

MoDOH · #1 12-23-2004, 08:17 AM

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Flopped the nuts (Not in hand 2 but with the preflop action I felt sure I had the nuts) two times in the span of two minutes on two different tables.

In hand 1, is raising the Turn the preferred move here?
In Hand 2, Anyone just smoothcall this flop?

Hand 1

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $3.
Hero calls, UTG+1 (poster) checks, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, Button folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls...

Hand 2

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG+2 raises, MP2 3-bets, MP3 calls, Hero caps...

SCfuji · #2 12-23-2004, 08:21 AM

1) i raise the turn
2) click 'raise' as many times as you can.

Chris Daddy Cool · #3 12-23-2004, 08:34 AM

hand 1 raise the turn

hand 2, just remember that your hand is vurnurable to counterfeiting.

EDIT: evan tha great corrected my typo because he's awesome.

Evan · #4 12-23-2004, 08:34 AM

1. He is very unlikely to pay you any more w/o a diamond anyway so there is no reason not to raise the turn.

2. Just hope the board doesn't pair.

Evan · #5 12-23-2004, 08:36 AM

I think calling the flop is fine is the first hand with 3 people still to act. I would be more inclined to raise with a king high flush but I think calling is fine with the ace.

chief444 · #6 12-23-2004, 08:39 AM

Raising the turn in hand one would be a mistake. Let him keep betting at you and then raise the river.

Evan · #7 12-23-2004, 08:40 AM

He's not betting the river without a diamond and people don't like folding. Do you see where I'm going?

MoDOH · #8 12-23-2004, 08:42 AM

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He is very unlikely to pay you any more w/o a diamond anyway so there is no reason not to raise the turn.

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My thinking was that if he didn´t have a diamond he would fold to my CR but very probably at least check-call the River.
And if he had a medium-high diamond he might very well lead out on the river again...

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Just hope the board doesn't pair.

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You betcha...

chief444 · #9 12-23-2004, 08:44 AM

You really don't believe a T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] bets this river after you just call the turn? Certainly a K will. I will admit though that most would probably call a turn raise also so you do have a point.

Evan · #10 12-23-2004, 08:44 AM

You can't c/r in position. Also, I don't think he's calling without a flush often enough to miss out on a big bet with a turn raise.