Laydown KK here preflop?

[KHALI]

$10 table on paradise. Second level(10/20)
7players left Hero is second stack with 1800.

Hero is button with KK
Middle player raises to 80
Late calls
Hero raises to 300 (what do you think of the size here?)
blinds fold
Middle raises all in 2700 total
late folds

Do you fold to the only stack that can break you here and lick your wounds to fight another day. Obviously I called even though I felt I was against aces. Is it really a no brainer here based strictly on tournament situation?
And if this is so could I not make the same play with any two cards and fold to the all in? Are my kings irrelevant here?

[poboy]

If you're absolutely sure he has Aces than yes it is an obvious fold. But how can you be sure of that, this could easily be QQ on down maybe even AK. You will only be in serious trouble a very small percentage of the time, the rest of the time you will be way ahead. Call and if he flips up Aces , pray for a King. The size of your re-raise seems a little large, I would be afraid he would fold.

As far as making this play with any two cards goes. What do you do when he just calls? What happens is you find yourself in a very tricky situation, I like to avoid tricky situations especially early on against a big stack. JMO

[alexbrew]

A ton of threads already exist to that say don't lay down KK.

I can't even figure out what part of the hand scares you unless you've played with the all in guy 1000 times and never once seen him raise up a pot.

[ilya]

Do not fold here unless you have an EXTREMELY strong read that he would only do this with AA-KK.

[Michael C.]

With 7 players left and 1800 chips, you're not assured of anything. So you push, hope he doesn't have aces, and then move on. I think it's a no brainer.

[Bigwig]

You call. No question.

[lorinda]

Hero raises to 300 (what do you think of the size here?)

I like it.

I don't like the laydown, see other comments. I'm not in the NEVER lay it down school, but I need compelling evidence to the contrary, particuarly in a $10.

Think of it as a normal hand. If you're about 50% sure then it's the same as AK vs 88 and if you're more sure than that it's the same as having him dominated.
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Lori

[soko]

Anyone who folds kings, I laugh in your face. It's pathetic really.

[raptor517]

i have never once folded KK preflop online in a sng. period. and i would venture to guess that i never will either.

[ilya]

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Anyone who folds kings, I laugh in your face. It's pathetic really.

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I'm sure Lorinda had excellent reasons on whatever occasions she folded KK preflop. She is not exactly a novice.

I also happen to agree with her. I think there are times to fold KK preflop even in a $10.

I think if you NEVER fold KK preflop, you are not reading your opponents enough.