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Old 12-22-2004, 11:34 AM
MoDOH MoDOH is offline
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Default Coldcalling with QTs

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Preflop aggressor was an unknown...
If he had been a TAG would that have made this a fold instead?

Now I am usually mucking this 100% of the time. But all the dead money in the pot made me call...
standard?

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $3. MP3 posts a blind of $3. CO posts a blind of $3.
UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 (poster) calls, MP3 (poster) calls, CO (poster) folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (12.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Button folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (7.66 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 8.66 BB
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Old 12-22-2004, 11:36 AM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: Coldcalling with QTs

I fold this pre-flop.
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Old 12-22-2004, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Coldcalling with QTs

I wouldn't say it's standard, but how often do you have three people post at once? I guess I would probably call here as well. I'm assuming you're only question was preflop.
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Old 12-22-2004, 11:41 AM
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Default Re: Coldcalling with QTs

It's probably the right play, but I would have trouble cold calling a raise here with so many players still to act. But I'm probably weak.
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Old 12-22-2004, 11:42 AM
MoDOH MoDOH is offline
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Default Re: Coldcalling with QTs

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I'm assuming you're only question was preflop.

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Yep...
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Old 12-22-2004, 12:06 PM
7ontheline 7ontheline is offline
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Default Re: Coldcalling with QTs

I typically fold QTs to a raise preflop also. With all that money out there, I think it's fine to cold-call, especially if it's a loose raiser or a passive table behind you. You have to imagine at least 1-2 of the posters will call, and maybe a blind also. I guess the problem is that with all the new posters, if one of them is a raising maniac your odds are even worse. I don't think it's a big deal though - if this is a mistake, it sure looks like an example of one of Ed Miller's SSH "small" mistakes. So you gave up one BB on one hand - big deal.
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Old 12-22-2004, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Coldcalling with QTs

Cold calling is ok here assuming you're going to have multi-way action. With the posters, you more than likely will. I like the call. Nice hand.
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Old 12-22-2004, 01:53 PM
Malcom Reynolds Malcom Reynolds is offline
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Default Re: Coldcalling with QTs

Interesting.

The only thing that sucks about the hand is that you have terrible position against the preflop raiser who could potentially dominate you. But the deal is sweetened by all the dead money in the pot and a possible multiway hand.

I'd probably call here too. If it's profitable, I think it's only marginally so.
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Old 12-22-2004, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: Coldcalling with QTs

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But all the dead money in the pot made me call...


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What is dead money? I've seen this phrase a few times now. To me it's live money since they all have hands still active and yet to act. It's not dead until they fold.

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