I suck at Value Betting

edtost · #1 12-22-2004, 04:09 AM

Against two loose-passives, how easy is a river bet here?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG+2 posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 (poster) checks, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, Button raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls.

River: (14.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

MarkL444 · #2 12-22-2004, 04:10 AM

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how easy is a river bet here?

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painfully

cpk · #3 12-22-2004, 04:15 AM

The worst that is going to happen to you is someone just completed a full house or delayed their raise to the river. Oh shucky darn.

Don't worry so much that a lunkhead will raise all the meat out of your sandwich. You've capped the rake and LPs will just call with a K, so you'll probably get an overcall too if you are tied. $2 is $2.

shant · #4 12-22-2004, 04:15 AM

I think an easier question is why not bet this river?

sthief09 · #5 12-22-2004, 04:21 AM

easy, easy preflop raise. get this NL crap out of your head

private joker · #6 12-22-2004, 04:23 AM

I don't think I understand the question.

edtost · #7 12-22-2004, 04:26 AM

yeah, the nl crap is [censored] with me. i almost folded pf.

SinCityGuy · #8 12-22-2004, 06:02 AM

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easy, easy preflop raise. get this NL crap out of your head

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Agreed. This is a good spot to raise for two reasons.

First, it's +EV to build a big pot with two big suited cards and several limpers already in.

Second, there is a decent chance that you will buy the button and have position for the rest of the hand.