Rediculous flaw in party software.... Or extremly prolonged bad luck?

[Jonny]

Hey guys,

Over the last few months, I have noticed that I barely EVER flop sets on party poker. So I went through poker tracker and found every time that I flopped a set, boat, or quads with a pocket pair. I wrote up a summary compared to paradise. My sample size is not great, but when I only flop 31 sets in 13,166 hands, something is wrong!

Party

True Stats
• Total Pocket Pairs: 720
• Set or better off flop: 31 of 720 PP
• Total Hands, sets: 31 of 13,166 total hands.

Projected Odds (Should be flopping a set or better with a PP)
• Total Pocket Pairs: 775
• 85 of 720 Sets or better
• 90 of 775 Sets or better

I should have flopped 90 sets in 13,166 hands.
I should have flopped 85 sets with the number of Pocket pairs I have received.

Bottom Line: I’m flopping 1/3 the amount of sets I’m supposed to.


Paradise

True Stats
• Total Pocket Pairs:1,516
• Set or better off flop: 162 of 1,516 PP
• Total Hands, sets: 162 of 25,858

Projected Odds
• Total Pocket Pairs: 1,520
• 177 of 1,516 sets or better
• 178 of 1,520 sets or better

I should have flopped 178 sets or better in 25,858 hands.
I should have flopped 177 sets with the number of Pocket pairs I have received.


Bottom Line: My actual odds are very close to projected on paradise.



Mabye this is why I'm winning 0.91(PT)BB/100 on party and 10(PT)BB/100 on paradise.....

Has anyone else experienced this?

[boondockst]

us discussing this is stupid b/c everyone knows the generators are random.....but i have played about 2,000 hands on a certain site and and i swear the only pp i ever had hit a set on the flop went like this:


6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (heads up)

Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

River: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

and the other guy had QQ

[Jonny]

yeah I know its random...

I guess my real question is this: How big of an effect does this have on my winrate. I feel that becuase of this, I am barely above even on party, as sets make up a majority of anyone's profit. Am I off on this?

[TheWorstPlayer]

Do sets really make up a majority of most people's profit? Personally, I have made most of my money on two pair. I make more ON AVERAGE from sets, but two pair occurs much more frequently, so . . .

[boondockst]

[ QUOTE ]
us discussing this is stupid b/c everyone knows the generators are random.....but i have played about 2,000 hands on a certain site and and i swear the only pp i ever had hit a set on the flop went like this:


6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (heads up)

Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

River: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

and the other guy had QQ

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Wow. Like 10 minutes after i post that i get 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the BB. Pot is raised once and we're 3 handed to the flop.

Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

yeah so long story short i go all in and the other guy turns over 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

this kind of crap make anyone suspicious if you saw it all the time?

[Muisyle]

[ QUOTE ]
Do sets really make up a majority of most people's profit? Personally, I have made most of my money on two pair. I make more ON AVERAGE from sets, but two pair occurs much more frequently, so . . .

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in 20,000 hands of NL25 and 50 I'm +$1,730 with three of a kind and -$141.20 with two pair...

[Jonny]

I think that answers my question....

I'm only up about $800 with trips in 15K hands of NL100!!!

[Jonny]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
us discussing this is stupid b/c everyone knows the generators are random.....but i have played about 2,000 hands on a certain site and and i swear the only pp i ever had hit a set on the flop went like this:


6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (heads up)

Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

River: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

and the other guy had QQ

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow. Like 10 minutes after i post that i get 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the BB. Pot is raised once and we're 3 handed to the flop.

Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

yeah so long story short i go all in and the other guy turns over 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

this kind of crap make anyone suspicious if you saw it all the time?

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yeah

[TheWorstPlayer]

yes. where "all the time" = sample of 100K+ hands.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Guess I'm the lucky two pair maestro.