3/6 ASF% at Party skins has dropped to an alltime low

[SinCityGuy]

30.12% over my last 40,000 tracked hands. Can anyone else verify these numbers?

The moneypits of the old davidross days are almost a forgotten memory now. I was reading some of his 3/6 multitabling posts from last year, and the games typically had 5 or 6 limpers seeing the flop. Now, virtually every blind is raised, and many pots are heads-up or 3-way. Of course, when he was playing, there weren't 500 T/A multitablers to contend with.

[bdk3clash]

Scary--my SF% for this month (around 25,000 hands at $3/6) is exactly 30.12%.

I agree that the games likely aren't as soft as they were when DavidRoss started them about 1.5 years ago. The good news is they're *still* soft as hell, and 15/30 is on the horizon...

[sthief09]

do you mine hands 24 hours a day? I'm wondering if maybe you just get hands during a certain time period that might be tighter. oddly, I've heard that the 5/10 games have softened up. 30% though? that's like 15/30 range

[spydog]

This is from a spreadsheet I am keeping since I started playing 3/6 full. I am tracking every 10k block.

My standard playing hours are 8am-8pm Dublin time (I think that is 2am-2pm EST).

Dates Hands ASF
10/01-11/14 10092 37.78
11/15-11/25 10479 35.56
11/25-12/15 10606 31.95

I have also been leaving from tight tables, as it has been quite common to see 6+ TAGs at a table lately.

[bisonbison]

My stats (these are from 20k+ hands I played each month):

August - ASF 32.38
September -ASF 32.03
December - ASF 29.14


There is a difference caused by the multitabling TAGs, but basically, the games are still very beatable. You just have to work harder at finding them.

I will also say that as I multitable more tables, my ability to escape bad tables is slowed.

[colgin]

I can't verify your numbers, but as someone who has started paying a lot of attention to table selection, I have noticed over the past severl months that the Party $3/6 games have substantially tightened up. The games are still very beatable because, among other things, many of the tight players that are still not that good. However, the number of really loose passive types per table has dropped significantly IMO.

[duk]

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I will also say that as I multitable more tables, my ability to escape bad tables is slowed.

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I think this is probably a major part of it. Here are my findings for the past months, from about 15k hands per month (these are only tables I've played, as I don't datamine):

September: 34.4
October: 31.8 (only 3k hands, though)
November: 33.1
December: 33.5

[Jonny Melon]

Has anyone considered the impact of the Bad Beat Jackpot tables into this? Have a lot of the fish and "Gambloors" moved over there? Because the 3/6 Bad Beat games are very good.
Jon

[trian1]

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Has anyone considered the impact of the Bad Beat Jackpot tables into this? Have a lot of the fish and "Gambloors" moved over there? Because the 3/6 Bad Beat games are very good.
Jon

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Good point. Are the Bad beat games really that juicy? How much higher is the rake? I usually play Empire but if the games are as god as a lot of people say, I may try it. ...

I wish h I had been on it when I hit Quad Qs over Quad Ts (And best part was the guy on a flush draw who stayed in the whole way with betting capped every round.)

[sthief09]

has your winrate dropped? that is the true test of whether the game has gotten harder. after 20,000 hands you can accurately tell whether the games have gotten tougher


(I can just imagine the steam coming out of your ears after reading that)