Another river decision

cockandbull · #1 12-13-2004, 02:35 PM

Tables quite juciy, Villian is quite the lag 80/13.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero checks.

 The flop bet was more of a semi bluff than anything. 

Flop: (2.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

 So the turn brings two pair and i bet 

Turn: (2.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

 Now what... I'd been talking to shillx about value betting more and as he was sitting next to me i thought i would be rude not too. In all seriousness, what do you do with this river? 

River: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

Entity · #2 12-13-2004, 02:37 PM

This is ultra fine. Ni han.

Remember that when defining players, the most important thing to note is how they play postflop. Is he loose-ag preflop and passive postflop? Then I bet the river and fold to a raise. Is he aggressive everywhere? Then I play the hand just like you did.

If the pot were multiway I wouldn't like your flop bet, but HU it's good. And HU, these are all value bets, not semi-bluffs. A pair is a good to very good hand HU.

Rob

meep_42 · #3 12-13-2004, 02:38 PM

Muy bueno.

-d

Smasharoo · #4 12-13-2004, 02:40 PM

Now what... I'd been talking to shillx about value betting more and as he was sitting next to me i thought i would be rude not too. In all seriousness, what do you do with this river?

Check, he clearly has a Jack!

Just kidding. You definately have to bet this value. Might have given a CR a shot on the turn if he's agressive post flop.

cockandbull · #5 12-13-2004, 02:42 PM

are we folding to a raise?

Also i kinda like this hand because villian had QQ, and didnt want to value bet me. He plays bad too [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

harry

Entity · #6 12-13-2004, 02:47 PM

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Also i kinda like this hand because villian had QQ,

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Then he isn't a LAG. Correct your reads. They are very important.

Smasharoo · #7 12-13-2004, 02:47 PM

are we folding to a raise?

Also i kinda like this hand because villian had QQ, and didnt want to value bet me. He plays bad too

harry

I make a crying call on a river raise. It's as likely to be TK, KQ, etc as it is to be Jx or some nutty big PP that flopped a set and never raised.

Smasharoo · #8 12-13-2004, 02:49 PM

Then he isn't a LAG. Correct your reads. They are very important.

Looks like he was a LAG slowplaying QQ against just the BB. Hard to read that without being psychic.

pokerstudAA · #9 12-13-2004, 02:50 PM

It looks like the villian seriously misplayed his hand in this situation and saved you alot of money. The aggressive read that you had was clearly off.

Rest assured you can read a player seeing 80% of the flops as having little or no sense of the game - not a LAG (possibly just a moron).

Smasharoo · #10 12-13-2004, 02:51 PM

You know, I probably raise this PF against a SB complete from a normally LAG player. I imagine that gets me 3-bet here, but all the same, I probably raise.