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Old 12-13-2004, 02:02 PM
MoDOH MoDOH is offline
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Default Capping the flop with medium overpair

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Had only played for 2 orbits so no real reads. MP2 seemed very aggressive preflop and on the flop.

Button was a clown...

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (12.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, Button folds.

River: (14.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero...
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:10 PM
Smasharoo Smasharoo is offline
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Default Re: Capping the flop with medium overpair

Well, it's agressive.

You don't think the button hit a set or has a bigger overpair?
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: Capping the flop with medium overpair

I like the cap here and the bet out on the turn, especially considering your reads.

The river sucks, but I think you need to keep your trend and bet.
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: Capping the flop with medium overpair

I agree with the river bet if for no other reason than there is a small chance JJ-KK folds. But if you plan to check/call then betting is definitely better.

I don't know how much I like the flop cap. I guess given the reads (if by "clown" he means maniac) then it isn't too bad.
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Capping the flop with medium overpair

Most PP people wonīt play trips this fast. usually they wait until the turn to go crazy. no more likely itīs a 5,overcards or an overpair. And if itīs an overpair I think itīs more likely that itīs 66-88 than TT and JJ. I think at least JJ would have been threebet preflop by most PP players.

If I want to continue to play in this hand after the threebet I think capping the flop amd leading the Turn
is the best way to go here. Anyone disagree?
If The turn action would have been Bet-Call-Raise though. I would have instamucked...
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:06 PM
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Well by clown I mean just that. His bets and raises could mean anything but he wasnīt a maniac by any means, he was just an awful player
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: Capping the flop with medium overpair

I think I call the flop 3-bet and check raise the turn if a blank falls. The turn isnt a great card, but I think I still take that line.
River sucks, I don't think you're making MP2 fold, so I check/call.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Capping the flop with medium overpair

If MP2 folds a better hand even very rarely then I think betting and folding to a raise is a much better line than check/calling.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Capping the flop with medium overpair

anyone else thinking he made a huge mistake by not raising preflop?
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: Capping the flop with medium overpair

could you please elaborate on why not raising preflop UTG+1 with UTG limping is such a huge mistake
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