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Old 12-13-2004, 12:38 PM
partygirluk partygirluk is offline
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Default Should I have folded this straight flush?

And what do you think about me leading out? I wasn't sure what his all in meant. Obviously I am hoping for the Ace of Clubs, but won't most players, even at this level, semi bluff the nut flush draw on this board? So is the only logical thing to lay it down? I couldn't bring myself to law down a SF.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney $6.5 Turbo, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG (t1460)
UTG+1 (t1590)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 (t1295)</font>
MP2 (t1525)
MP3 (t1850)
CO (t1430)
Button (t1410)
SB (t1440)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1500)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t120) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: (t120) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t90</font>, UTG+1 calls t90, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t1265</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1470</font>, UTG+1 folds.

River: (t2945) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2945
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: t2740 (t2740), between MP1 and Hero.</font>
<font color="#009B00">Pot 2: t205 (t205), between MP1 and Hero.</font>
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Old 12-13-2004, 12:49 PM
Elektrik Elektrik is offline
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Default Re: Should I have folded this straight flush?

From the tone of your post, it's obvious he had the nine, it sucks, and you want some validation in your call...

And no, I would definitely not lay it down.
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Old 12-13-2004, 12:52 PM
ctv1116 ctv1116 is offline
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Default Re: Should I have folded this straight flush?

No, I wouldn't mind going out with a straight flush, even if it is the sucker side.
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Old 12-13-2004, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: Should I have folded this straight flush?

Er....no? You get reraised with the A, K, and probably the Q here.
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Old 12-13-2004, 01:22 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: Should I have folded this straight flush?

Your opponent could as easily have the T-A of clubs rather than the 9 with such an allin. Frankly, the times you will end up having a straight flush are so small such a decision probably isn't all that important in the long run. Not to mention that you probably can't ever be making too much of a mistake always getting your $$ in the middle with a straight flush no matter the situation.

If your opponent does have the better straight flush, then it's simply time to bring up the next SNG, [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:18 PM
YourFoxyGrandma YourFoxyGrandma is offline
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Default Re: Should I have folded this straight flush?

Rule of thumb: never fold 4 of a kind of better.
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Old 12-13-2004, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Should I have folded this straight flush?

I didn't really look at the post too carefully, but no. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-14-2004, 06:19 PM
partygirluk partygirluk is offline
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Default RESULTS

I called because I figured that the 9 of clubs would be unlikely to push. He is also went insta all in which heightened my suspicions further.

Villain: shows [3s Jc] (a flush, Jack high) !!!!!!!

I was surprised by the user who said that anyone with the Ace, King or Queen of trump would be raising all in. Even if I had the Ace of Clubs, I would play for a cheap showdown on this board. Raising surely won't get a better hand to fold, and it is hard to see many worse hands calling.
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Old 12-14-2004, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: RESULTS

I must say, its refreshing to see a hand posted on here where the poster actually won and just wanted to see if it was the correct play anyways. It seems to be very rare on these boards.
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Old 12-14-2004, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: RESULTS

[ QUOTE ]

I was surprised by the user who said that anyone with the Ace, King or Queen of trump would be raising all in. Even if I had the Ace of Clubs, I would play for a cheap showdown on this board. Raising surely won't get a better hand to fold, and it is hard to see many worse hands calling.

[/ QUOTE ]

Your logic is 100% correct, but it simply doesn't apply at your buyin. Don't give your opponents too much credit.

What's a trump? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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