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Old 12-12-2004, 04:21 PM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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so this saturday i made my first ever trip to the land of the Commerce. I must say it's a pretty nice place and damn big and enjoyed it there, despite the hellish traffic and all.

so i signed up for a 20/40 table and sat down in a really juicy game, despite losing over 1k in my session. oh yea, you get FREE FOOD if you play 15/30 and above, so that was pretty cool.

so yea, undoubtedly it seemed like i was a very strange player or probably wasn't even a good one based on these few things my opponents saw me do, where people openly pointed out that I played very strange.

1. one hand i checkraised the flop and checked the turn and check/folded the river.

2. i raised the turn to get a free showdown on the river and when my opponent flipped over TPNK I threw my hand in the muck.

3. i openraised utg and folded when it was 2 cold back to me.

4. i folded my big blind a ton despite getting half off.

and the big one...

5. i openraised and folded to a 3-bet.

on a side note...

in this 20/40 game i randomly ran into 2 2+2ers sitting at my table. i overheard them talking about the internet and i heard "twoplustwo" and I threw in the brown trout line and we had a little chuckle. i've never even randomly met one 2+2er before at a table, and I run into 2 here. how odd.
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:35 PM
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I've never had someone comment on my weird style of play (mostly because the games I've been in have never been aggro enough to, for example, raise and then fold when it comes back capped). I frequently have had a kindly middleaged guy that I was chatting with earlier give me the evil eye when I check-raise the flop from the SB (he was the Button -- I had TPTK on a board with two of a suit I didn't have, he'd raised PF... it was a perfect "protect your hand with a c/r" situation). People don't care much for check-raising. I avoid doing it heads-up unless I'm against a real lag who might 3-bet my nuts for me.

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in this 20/40 game i randomly ran into 2 2+2ers sitting at my table. i overheard them talking about the internet and i heard "twoplustwo"

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Did you kindly pull them aside and say "stop telling people about the secret hideout"?
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: 2+2 = strange play? (little if any content)

but proper play is "wierd". The usual play, that most people want to employ, is passive, waiting for a good hand to start firing. Or calling to see if you can win. Or being aggressive to get your rocks off. It is very unnatural to withhold that aggressiveness until the proper situation arises when it is most profitable. the last time i played in a casino, i raised more than the entire table COMBINED, and ended slightly ahead. People were poking fun at me for being a an aggression junkie, but everytime i raised, i had the best of it. They will look at you, and i usually just play the role of the lag, hoping no one notices im folding about 80% of my hands.

oh, and you are fishdaddy, so im sure some of the looks werent undeserved [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

peace

john nickle
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Old 12-12-2004, 06:05 PM
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who were they?
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Old 12-12-2004, 06:17 PM
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the last time i played in a casino, i raised more than the entire table COMBINED, and ended slightly ahead. People were poking fun at me for being a an aggression junkie, but everytime i raised, i had the best of it. They will look at you, and i usually just play the role of the lag, hoping no one notices im folding about 80% of my hands.

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If you're playing 5-10 and below, you're folding too much. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I try to project a loose-passive image, despite my style being far from loose-passive. I'm fairly quiet but will engage in small conversation with a handful of players near me -- almost always about sports or some other such inconsequential thing. If I talk about a hand, it's usually something that would mark me as a fish. Last time I played live, I made it back to the table from getting a pop just in time to be dealt in. The guy to my left ended up flopped a full house, or something equally powerful. I said "wow, good thing for you I got back in time!" He was the closest thing to a good player at the table, and had picked up on my TAG style. He just looked at me and said "you don't actually think that way, do you?" I just shrugged and smiled. In general, I just present a very friendly, quiet, non-confrontational image -- easy, since I'm a natural loose-passive. But, like you, I'm very sure that I raised more than the entire table combined. And I had a LAGerrific gambooler there that day.


On another note, CDC, what were your impressions of the Commerce on the whole? Lots of juicy games, good service, whatever? I'm just curious, I've never been there (or just about anywhere else, for that matter).
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