Overcards out of position... again

commadore · #1 12-12-2004, 01:18 PM

Button is new to the table but after about 10 hands appears to be a LAG. Not a maniac, but is playing over 1/3 of his hands and raising PF with half of those. Plays aggressively PF also. Does the flop raise make sense?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button raises, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, CO checks, Button bets, Hero raises, UTG+2 folds, CO folds, Button 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

Brash620 · #2 12-12-2004, 01:23 PM

Looks like you played it fine.

Mike Gallo · #3 12-12-2004, 01:32 PM

Hello commadore,

I like the flop check raise.

I do not like the turn bet, especially after he raised your check raise. You should want to pay only one big bet to see the river, not two big bets.

Chaos_ult · #4 12-12-2004, 01:35 PM

From the description that you have given, I'd be more inclined to check/call the turn. Given the action, I doubt ace-high is going to take this pot down, and he's surely not folding to a turn bet. Check call, then check fold the river unimproved.

(EDIT: gah, Mike always beats me to it.)

commadore · #5 12-12-2004, 01:47 PM

How am I going to get my PokerTracker aggression number up by calling? Check calling the turn does make more sense. Thanks.

Mike Gallo · #6 12-12-2004, 01:50 PM

Looks like you played it fine.

You mean you like the turn bet after he got raised on his flop check raise?

He should have check called the turn. A free card will not hurt him, he most likely needs to catch a heart to win.

The Dude · #7 12-12-2004, 01:52 PM

As others have said, check-call the flop. Check-raise the river if you hit your flush, bet out if you hit your A.

commadore · #8 12-12-2004, 02:10 PM

What if I hit my T? Bet?

Avatar · #9 12-12-2004, 02:23 PM

I like the flop c/r.

Turn is a problem:
After being 3-bet, you gotta check/call that turn card.
If it's a 10 instead on the turn, I would still check/call, check/call.
If it's an ace, I go check/call, bet/call a raise.

beckham9 · #10 12-12-2004, 02:30 PM

IF he hits a 10 on river, you bet out? or still check, call?
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