Hand for sthief09...$6-$12 at the Borgata

[Mike Gallo]

I did not plan on posting this hand, however after sthief09's recent KK post, I felt inspired to post this hand.

The main villian in this hand, the player in the small blind played too many hands. He played any two suited cards and any paint.

Five limpers to me on the button and I looked down at A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and raised. People for the most part played their own cards at this table, never bothering to put someone on a hand.

The small blind called the big blind folded and everyone who had money in the pot, called again.7.5 big bets in the pot. $90 in the pot preflop

Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

The small blind bet, one player called, I raised the small blind called the player to close action called. $126 in the pot now.

Turn K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

The small blind bet the next player to act folded and I raised..again. The small blind called. $174 in the pot.

River 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

The small blind checked, what action do I take?

[Tosh]

Um, bet.

[sthief09]

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Um, bet.

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yeah I don't get it either

[Mike Gallo]

..ok. I did bet and villian raised me.

Now what? He has bet into me on the flop after I raised preflop. He bet into me on the turn even after I raised his flop bet. The river he checked. Look at the board very carefully.

For the record, I would play the hand the way I played it every time.

My point to you Josh is, you posted when will I learn. You had Kings against a semi coordinated board.

[Mike Gallo]

Um, bet.

Of course I did, and I did not reraise the villians check raise.

[sthief09]

OK now I see the point. I couldn't see what betting the river had to do with anything. obviously I'm not laying down in this spot, but I don't blame you for calling. I wouldn't 3-bet either. do you think that's bad? I tend to tighten up a lot when I see those tell-tale signs that I'm beat. the flop smooth call followed by raising a turn blank is probably the biggest one, and I just about always fold to that. that's probably bad. I'm a lot looser on the river though. I only have to be good about half as often to make the call, since I'm putting only 1 more bet in.

but about the hand, the flop bet could be anything. more often than not, the turn bet is either a semi-bluff, or someone refusing to believe that his trips are no good. the river check-raise probably means that he filled up. I don't give anyone enough credit to be that tricky to bet, bet, and then check-raise the river. I guess it's possible he filled up on the turn and waited until the river, so not to scare you away. you gotta be pretty damn sure you're behind here, but full houses just don't happen that much in this game. he could've gotten empowered with KQ or KJ, or he could just plain not believe you.

to be honest, I'd be really tempted to fold, but obviously I wouldn't in a pot that size. I hope he showed you something stupid like A8, but I think it's K8 the majority of the time.

[Mike Gallo]

...he had 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for the flopped open ended straight draw.

After I walked into the river check raise, I knew what he had, however I had to pay off.

I wanted to make this point to you, we all walk into traps. It happens. Normally I would have three bet my opponent and saw a hand like KQ KJ or K9.

[Mike Gallo]

I wouldn't 3-bet either. do you think that's bad?

Not at all. He told me he had me on three streets, eventually I have to believe him.

but about the hand, the flop bet could be anything

We agree. I put him on perhaps a King or he flopped a piece of the board. Either way I have to raise. I think I have the best hand.

the turn bet is either a semi-bluff, or someone refusing to believe that his trips are no good

The former not the latter. He set up the pass by using the run.

[spamuell]

I can see 75s being distinctly possible as well, depending how good the sb is. Call with your suited connectors pf with good position relative to the pfr.

Bet the open ender into the LP pfr and hope to trap many people with your quality draw.

Bet the turn which is a scare card and the field is now thinned. It's unlikely that you'll get raised and if you do, you know you are losing 0 bets on the river if you miss and almost certainly gaining at least two if you hit. Unless pfr has specifically 88 (and many won't raise 88 here) then it's very unlikely you're behind.

After being raised on the turn, the river check-raise is obvious.

I could easily believe that someone would decide this is a good way to play 75s.

EDIT: I wrote all this before I the results were posted. MG in NJ posted them while I was writing this, but I look like such a cheat lol.

[lehighguy]

A word on the Borgata 6-12, there is a 50% chance he is bluffing the entire time with 2-8 offsuit. Or was that just my table last night. He could also think his pocket tens are good, or his king-2. God I saw some crazy [censored] last night.