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Old 12-12-2004, 05:44 AM
Chaostracize Chaostracize is offline
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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (13.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

Do I need to bet the river?

Should I just call that turn raise?
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:49 AM
Chairman Wood Chairman Wood is offline
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Default Re: Standard?

Without a read, it is usually at the turn raise that I would call down unless you hit a Q or A on the river. I think he has 55. If he is laggish go crazy on it unless a heart hits on the river.
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Old 12-12-2004, 09:07 AM
lostinthought lostinthought is offline
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Default Re: Standard?

I agree with chairman here,
I think you can slow down to his turn raise after capping the flop, unless he is an idiot who will cap with a pair of aces on the flop.
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Old 12-12-2004, 09:47 AM
kamelion44 kamelion44 is offline
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Default Re: Standard?

I kinda like raising him on the turn, but maybe I'm just a maniac. I like it when the foolios turn over AK-Ax, A5, or a heart draw here. If you want some ammo for my argument, go read vetman's post "Still in need of help," and see how eager he was to cap it on the flop, with just a draw, let alone good top pair or weaker two pair (sorry vet, not to pick on you, just making a point). Once you three bet, I think alot of guys cap it with you with hands you can beat, just cuz they get pissed or want to ram and jam...but sure, you'll be shown 55 sometimes.
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Old 12-12-2004, 03:13 PM
Chaostracize Chaostracize is offline
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As soon as I was raised on the turn the little voice in my head said "Yup, 55." But I figured there were enough hands that would raise on the turn that I had beat, like a heart draw plus a pair, or weaker two pair.

He did have 55, so I'm glad he let the river check through. I still think I like the turn 3 bet though, because a lot of people will semi bluff the heart draw here on principle. Any more comments from anyone?
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Old 12-12-2004, 03:22 PM
D.H. D.H. is offline
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If 3-betting the turn I can't see why you shouldn't also bet the river.
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Old 12-12-2004, 03:29 PM
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Since no draw got there I figure to make more by checking and calling to chop off a bluff, no?
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