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Old 12-12-2004, 04:00 AM
bisonbison bisonbison is offline
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Default QTs in the SB.

MP3 is very loose and very aggro. Let's work through this street by street.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>...

too much?
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Old 12-12-2004, 04:02 AM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: QTs in the SB.

Depends on the BB, but no I don't think it's too aggro.
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Old 12-12-2004, 04:46 AM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Default Re: QTs in the SB.

I wouldn't do it. But I'm a SSHE robot who is terrified to deviate from Ed Miller's brilliant proven pre flop formula. Go ahead and raise though, if you want to be fancy. Even maniacs get dealt AQ. I'm not saying I would fold, just call. And if you get a favorable flop he's going to punish himself by overplaying his hand anyway.
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Old 12-12-2004, 04:49 AM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: QTs in the SB.

Speaking of which, any read on the BB?
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Old 12-12-2004, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: QTs in the SB.

"I know that you're pretty--but you're still only QTs, and I need a hand with good showdown value. Don't worry, though, you'll meet the right player someday who'll take you out for more than a quickie."
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:01 AM
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Default Re: QTs in the SB.

I think a call is better than a raise. You're probably behind any A, K or pair and you probably don't want to be reraised.
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: QTs in the SB.

Just making things difficult for yourself if you miss the flop.

Just call QTs isnt a showdown hand, reraise with a good ace or PP.
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:07 AM
James282 James282 is offline
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Default Re: QTs in the SB.

This is only good if you have the ability to bet the flop and turn pretty much regardless of the board if shown no resistance. You will usually have to fire a river bet too against these types, as your hand has no showdown value unimproved and you can't really induce a bluff. But if you can fire and fire and fire I think it's ok.
-James
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:37 AM
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Default Re: QTs in the SB.

I think probably. Unless you have a read that he's weak or an opponent of Cinnamonwind. You only have $1 invested in the pot, let's not go crazy.
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:41 AM
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Default Re: QTs in the SB.

I think this is probably going to be the least interesting street of this hand. I wouldn't do this often, but whatever. I think it's okay now and then, all sorts of meta-game considerations in play here, and it's not that big a difference... so... flop please.

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