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Old 12-11-2004, 10:36 PM
nepenthe nepenthe is offline
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Default King-Ten Suited

One hand from the other night:

I limped UTG with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Against my expectation everyone else folded to the SB who raised. It was folded to me and I called.

Flop was KT4, rainbow.

SB bet, I called.

Turn was another 4, pairing the board.

SB bet, I considered raising, I considered calling, and I called.

River was an offsuit Ace, making the final board KT44A.

SB bet, I considered raising, I considered folding, I considered calling, and called. Goodnight.
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Old 12-11-2004, 10:46 PM
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Nepenthe posted another badly played hand. I considered not responding, I considered asking why he didn't raise the turn and I considered mocking him. I mocked him. Goodnight.
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Old 12-11-2004, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: King-Ten Suited

Spam, let's keep it friendly. Posting badly played hands is the point of this forum.

Nep, raise the turn. He may call you with a bare ace, he'll definitely call you with a king and may call with an underpair.
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Old 12-11-2004, 10:59 PM
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Spam, let's keep it friendly. Posting badly played hands is the point of this forum.

Bison, I know you're right about that but my comments weren't really about it being badly played, I should have made myself clearer. A play with JJ triggered this for me.

Anyway, I'd raise the turn because you get called by a lot but I don't mind waiting until the river. I think you do have to raise the river though, the A isn't that scary when you think about what he might hold. You're behind a few more hands and you may not get the calls from lower pairs now there are two overcards on board but you might get them anyway because raising the A heads-up looks like a bluff. Also, you now get called by A-big when you raise which you wouldn't have before on the river (which is why I raise the turn).
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Old 12-11-2004, 11:02 PM
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raise the turn...

consider raising the flop?
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Old 12-12-2004, 04:36 AM
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One thing I did not reveal was a pause before opponent's river bet. He showed QQ, and I took it down. He said something to the effect of wtf, you didn't raise once so I could fold? That liar.
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Old 12-12-2004, 04:48 AM
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Nepenthe, you make me sad.
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Old 12-12-2004, 04:51 AM
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Against certain types of players I think this is perfectly fine. I would always raise the turn against an unknown but this certainly isn't misplayed as horribly as everyone is saying. He just got a bad river card.
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Old 12-12-2004, 04:52 AM
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a peculiar emotion that, dr chesspain
are there events in your life that may need mending sir
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Old 12-12-2004, 04:53 AM
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If these are 3/6 players there is no need to raise the flop. The bets are bigger on the turn and he will call it down just as often as a flop raise.
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