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Old 12-11-2004, 03:08 PM
JEM7VSBL JEM7VSBL is offline
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Default AJo in the CO against a steal raise

i posted this hand earlier in micro and realized that it belonged in SS, hopefully i'll get more responses here...

mp3 has been open raising a lot of hands and plays pretty aggressively. the button is your run of the mill calling station who called a lot of my open raises throughout the session.

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Preflop: JEM is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">JEM 3-bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">JEM bets</font>, Button calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">JEM bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, JEM folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (15.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 17.75 BB

i decided to bail out to the three bet on the turn, thinking my two pair was no good (AQ, a set, or even a made straight). would you have called this down? any other thoughts?
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Old 12-11-2004, 03:17 PM
Sir Limps Alot Sir Limps Alot is offline
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Default Re: AJo in the CO against a steal raise

Probably should have folded pre flop, putting raiser on A K A Q your demolished and you must have put him on that because you folded to that on the turn. You should not three bet with A J off ever always putting raiser on AK or AQ.
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Old 12-11-2004, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: AJo in the CO against a steal raise

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You should not three bet with A J off ever always putting raiser on AK or AQ.

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Huh?
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Old 12-11-2004, 03:28 PM
Sir Limps Alot Sir Limps Alot is offline
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Default Re: AJo in the CO against a steal raise

In which situations is it good to three bet with A J off?
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Old 12-11-2004, 03:54 PM
Mike Gallo Mike Gallo is offline
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Default Re: AJo in the CO against a steal raise

If you suspect the cutoff has attempted to steal with a raise, rereraise to isolate and because you have the best hand.

In this hand MP3 checked three bet, I would fold here also. Sometimes a player does have a hand.

I think you played this hand fine.
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Old 12-11-2004, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: AJo in the CO against a steal raise

well played... haven't seen you here in a while
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Old 12-11-2004, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: AJo in the CO against a steal raise

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In which situations is it good to three bet with A J off?

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against an obvious steal raise, like here. position position position
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Old 12-11-2004, 04:02 PM
Mike Gallo Mike Gallo is offline
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Default Re: AJo in the CO against a steal raise

In which situations is it good to three bet with A J off?

If you suspect a player of raising "light", in other words attempting to make a move on the blinds, a player should three bet with more liberal hands such as AJ off.
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Old 12-11-2004, 04:07 PM
JEM7VSBL JEM7VSBL is offline
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Default Re: AJo in the CO against a steal raise

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well played... haven't seen you here in a while

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thanks. yea, i took a break from the game for a few months, it was really getting to me...you know how it is, when the game just wasn't fun anymore. my grades certainly thanked me for it...

and yes, AJo in that situation i was in is always a raise/fold play. there is no call....EVER....heh
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Old 12-11-2004, 07:28 PM
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Preflop: JEM is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">JEM 3-bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">JEM bets</font>, Button calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">JEM bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, JEM folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (15.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 17.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP3 has Ts Kd (straight, ace high).
Button has Ad As (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: MP3 wins 17.75 BB. </font>
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