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Old 12-11-2004, 01:37 AM
vetman81 vetman81 is offline
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Default 2/4 BB hand...I need help

UTG is typical loose passive...VP$IP over 35, PFR 0.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP3 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, SB folds.

River: (5.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

I dont really know what to do in these situations. I could check call, but it seems like I would have no clue as to where I stood in the hand. As it is, I really didnt have much clue anyways. Check folding seems too weak, but is probably a better option than check calling the whole way through. Betting seems like the best option to me, but I end up in bad situations a lot of the time. Thoughts?
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Old 12-11-2004, 01:56 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 BB hand...I need help

Against just three opponents, I would bet the flop, like you did.

No one showed resistance on the flop and now I only have two opponents. So I bet again on the turn.

I don't like the river card much, but I probably bet again. However, when I get raised by UTG, I fold. My hand isn't really very good, the pot isn't all that big, my opponent is passive, and although the river card did make a straight possible, it isn't an obvious scare card. So I'm pretty sure I'm beat.
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Old 12-11-2004, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 BB hand...I need help

Ridiculously easy river fold.
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Old 12-11-2004, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 BB hand...I need help

I agree. I dont really know what I was thinking at the time. Thanks for the responses.
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Old 12-11-2004, 03:11 PM
Sir Limps Alot Sir Limps Alot is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 BB hand...I need help

Check and call the river. This is a mistake that alot of players make. You have J 7 off suit this is not a strong hand, if you win this it should be at minimal risk. Good play on flop and turn but the river, save yourself the money. Check and call or bet and fold to a three bet.
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Old 12-11-2004, 03:19 PM
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Check and call the river. This is a mistake that alot of players make.

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I like unintentional humor. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]. Seriously, I would only check-call against a tricky and/or aggressive player. Checkcalling against a seemingly passive calling station means that you usually are only putting money into the pot on the river when you are losing.
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Old 12-11-2004, 03:37 PM
Sir Limps Alot Sir Limps Alot is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 BB hand...I need help

What was the result of the hand?

Did he chase down a king or did he have better Jack?
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Old 12-11-2004, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 BB hand...I need help

Being as calling station as listed I say he had QT
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Old 12-11-2004, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 BB hand...I need help

He had AJs.
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Old 12-11-2004, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 BB hand...I need help

In this situation my “standard” play (whatever that means) is to check/call the Flop unless the LP player bets in which case I raise. Otherwise I lead the Turn when a blank drops.
What do you think?
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