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Old 12-10-2004, 07:21 AM
Alexthegreat Alexthegreat is offline
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No good players at the table, great game.....Dealt AA somewhere in middle position....Manages to get capped 5 ways, but 2 players are all in, so only 3 of us postflop...i'm last to act at this point...

Flop is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Checked to me......I bet.....both call

Turn is A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to me......I bet.....both call

River is 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to me......I check.....good? bad? ugly?

Just so you know, I don't want to bet and call any raises, and I don't want to bet and fold to any raises either.....Should I want to do any of those things?
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Old 12-10-2004, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: River Checkup

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Checked to me......I check.....good? bad? ugly?



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Ugly.
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Old 12-10-2004, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: River Checkup

bet
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Old 12-10-2004, 09:16 AM
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Default Re: River Checkup

raise with the winning hand on the river if it checked to you
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Old 12-10-2004, 09:28 AM
Russ McGinley Russ McGinley is offline
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Default Re: River Checkup

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Just so you know, I don't want to bet and call any raises, and I don't want to bet and fold to any raises either.....Should I want to do any of those things?

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Nobody "enjoys" getting raised when they don't have the nuts. If you get raised on the river, then you call and if someone checked a 6 or (shudder) a flush, then so be it. Don't automatically assume that a scare card just killed you. It's highly probably someone has A8, an overpair, even two pair, T9, etc.
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:40 AM
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I wasn't assuming that my hand was killed, I was thinking that I wasn't prepared to call a check raise.....If I bet and get raised, how often am I good??

It seems to me that almost no hand I beat is going to checkraise me.....
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:54 AM
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Easy bet.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:10 PM
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Thanks to all the posters who have given me sentence replies, but I don't need to be told to bet the river becuase my hand is awesome

I never have any problems with value betting....I do have problems calling checkraises...I think I do it too much.....So now if I think i'm going to get checkraised, I check.....and I don't get checkraised....consequently I now miss some value bets....I need to find the happy medium, and I want to know if this is a situation where I should bet and call the checkraise, or bet and fold, or just check and see everyone's hand

I guess I failed to explain this fully in my original post...but now that I have, feel free to let me know what I should do, and don't be afraid to give reasons why.....who knows, it may help my game more than the phrase "easy bet"
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:15 PM
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I never have any problems with value betting....I do have problems calling checkraises.

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These two statements are inconsistent. It is called "value" betting for a reason--because in general one makes more money than via checkcalling, despite the built-in risk of having to deal with a raise.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: River Checkup

I guess I meant..."betting my hand on the river" which is usually where value betting comes in to play, no?
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