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Old 12-09-2004, 06:54 PM
BigEndian BigEndian is offline
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Default Not the usual AJo hand

MP3 will raise with a wide variety of hands (17% PFR, 51% flops, but only over 30 hands). SB is a solid player that I respect (7.8% raise, 17% flops).

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Preflop: BigEndian is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BigEndian 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls (after a few seconds of thought), <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 caps</font>, BigEndian calls, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (18 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, BigEndian calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, BigEndian calls.

River: (15 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">BigEndian bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 17 BB

- Jim
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:56 PM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default Re: Not the usual AJo hand

Big Endian:

You forgot to raise the turn.

--Rico

Edit: Haven't seen you around much, what gives?
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Old 12-09-2004, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: Not the usual AJo hand

I like this the whole way. Nice hand.
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Old 12-09-2004, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: Not the usual AJo hand

Good one. Nice river bet. I like the 3-bet PF as well.
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Old 12-09-2004, 07:10 PM
BigEndian BigEndian is offline
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Default Re: Not the usual AJo hand

Maybe I was giving up too much respect to the player, but my thoughts at the time:

His range of hands to cold call in the SB with were not ones that I would want to raise with when he bets out into the field and into a 3-bettor.

My quandry here is the flush draw and the long shot draws like pairs spiking if my Ace is good. But I was so locked in to thinking this player had me beat that I couldn't bring out a raise. One of those situations where you feel like your read is so strong that you doubt where your value is in the raise.

This also lead me to wonder why I bet the river if I felt my read was so strong.

I've been taking a bit of a break. I haven't logged 20 hours of poker in a week in a long time. Some of it was frustration, some was just getting distracted by other things. Ironically, I haven't had a huge downswing. Thanks for asking [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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Old 12-09-2004, 07:49 PM
Joe Tall Joe Tall is offline
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Default Re: Not the usual AJo hand

You've got to raise this turn if you are behind the SB this time the overlay from the clowns will make up for it.

Peace,
Joe Tall
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Old 12-09-2004, 10:36 PM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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Default Re: Not the usual AJo hand

I fold pre flop. I don't think 30 hands is enough to someones 17% PFR is high enough that I want to 3 bet AJo

Raise the turn. If SB 3 bets you have an easy fold, you are closing the action and no one raised so none of the other players have an 8. Make them pay for whatever crap/flush draw they are calling with and it will subsidize you against the SBs hand.
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