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Old 12-08-2004, 08:11 PM
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Default Protecting my hand in a big pot and an interesting river

Live 4/8 with bdk3clash on my left and fryking on my right. Fryking has chosen the worst seat at the table, because for the 3rd time in an hour I'm UTG on his BB and I straddle. 3 bad players limp, an erratic gambooler raises in the CO, an aggressive thinking player 4-bets on the Button, blinds fold, and I 5-bet with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], everyone calls.

6 to the flop for 30 SBs. Flop is K96 two crubs, no heart. I check, checked to the button who bets, I checkraise, two bad MPs call, button calls.

4 to the turn for 19 BBs. Turn blanks a non-paint, non-crub. I check again and it checks to the button who thinks and slowly bets. I checkraise again and we lose an MP.

3 to the river for 25 BBs. River blanks a non-paint, non-crub. I check intending to call 1 bet.
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Old 12-08-2004, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: Protecting my hand in a big pot and an interesting river

Any consideration to check/calling the flop and checkraising the turn? Doesn't seem like checkraising the flop protects your hand from anything including a bare ace (what doesn't have odds to call getting 31.5:2?).

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Old 12-08-2004, 09:05 PM
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Your river play is bad. You need to bet this river and rivers like it.
-James
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Old 12-08-2004, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Protecting my hand in a big pot and an interesting river

eh, I don't think check calling this river is a big mistake since I personally have to call if raised here with 28bb in pot (assuming I bet and get raised with no one else in). Normally, I'm in agreement, though.

I'll be at the club Friday night, hope to see you there (but it's fine if you're at a different table).
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Old 12-08-2004, 09:20 PM
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Your river play is bad. You need to bet this river and rivers like it.

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After thinking a long time about it I agree, although I think we have very different reasons behind it. If he calls, this particular player will always have a better hand.
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Old 12-08-2004, 09:21 PM
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I'll be at the club Friday night, hope to see you there (but it's fine if you're at a different table).

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That sounds like an invitation. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-08-2004, 09:21 PM
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I hate it. I think you'll freeze up a lot of better hands with a bet here due to the aggression you've shown and I can't see a worse hand that got this far folding.

I'm putting the button on AK but I can't see him raising and you're calling anyway so I don't uderstand the check.
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Old 12-08-2004, 09:50 PM
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Your river play is bad. You need to bet this river and rivers like it.

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After thinking a long time about it I agree, although I think we have very different reasons behind it. If he calls, this particular player will always have a better hand.

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You are against 2 players on the river.
-James
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Old 12-09-2004, 01:47 PM
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You Brad and Chris are + EV for poker sociability, -EV for actual play. Hence, the optimal situation is to have you in the club but at a different table.
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Old 12-09-2004, 02:05 PM
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Brad is +ev generally. His naturally goofy demeanor has a remarkable ability to tilt several regulars.
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