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Old 12-01-2004, 04:09 AM
davelin davelin is offline
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Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (12.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, MP2 calls $1.25 (All-In), Hero calls, UTG+2 folds.

Final Pot: 14 BB
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Old 12-01-2004, 04:13 AM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: Wait for turn okay here?

Yeah this is okay. Sometimes UTG+2 will not bet again for whatever reason, so I like raising the flop in this spot. The pot has not gotten too out of control for this play IMO, although it is not a bad play at all.

Brad
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Old 12-01-2004, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: Wait for turn okay here?

Sorry I was wrong in my initial post (deleted) you should wait till the turn when you have greater pot equity and a non scare card comes
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Old 12-01-2004, 05:14 AM
Smasharoo Smasharoo is offline
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Default Re: Wait for turn okay here?

No, it's not ok to let straight and flush draws draw cheaply when you have an overpair. Raise the flop.
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Old 12-01-2004, 05:21 AM
davelin davelin is offline
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Default Re: Wait for turn okay here?

Isn't there a similar hand in SSHE?
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Old 12-01-2004, 08:49 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: Wait for turn okay here?

Raise the flop.

couple things, its not gauranteed that the same dude is going to bet again on the turn. people always assume that, but its not always the case.

also your hand isn't likely to be much better on the turn as it was on the flop. sure there are a lot of scary cards that can come on the turn, but not so much that you still shouldn't raise this flop.
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Old 12-01-2004, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: Wait for turn okay here?

One of the most common posts on 2+2.

You have to raise this flop. So many people confuse this with an example from SSH. Charge the draws.

The pot would have to be a lot large to consider waiting until the turn.
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Old 12-01-2004, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: Wait for turn okay here?

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The pot would have to be a lot large to consider waiting until the turn.

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I would think it would be the other way around. In a larger pot, you worry less about hiding your hand and more about taking it down right away. Wouldn't you be more inclined to raise the flop and try to take down the pot with a larger pot?

With a board this coordinated, I opt to raise the flop the vast majority of the time. Often times the flop better is on a draw, and if it doesn't come in on the turn, he'll check - leaving you with a missed opportunity anyway.

Alex
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