Weak tight? Set of 7's in the muck on a 4 straight board.

[Grease]

The player who made the river bet is really loose passive. The player who made the river fold is a giant wuss, or was it an obvious laydown?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB

[Alobar]

raise preflop

I call the river. He bet the flop, which makes me think he has a pair, so the river could easily just be 2 pair, or a bluff. If he had an OESD on the flop he still doesnt have the str8. I think you win 1 time in 8.

did I mention you should raise this preflop?

[Grease]

Yeah, definitely raise that PF. I have no idea what I was thinking (I was multitabling). Pretty inexcusable on my part, actually.

[J.R.]

raise preflop.

If he is so loose passive, what was he betting into you on the flop with, a pair and a 3? You beat that. Do you think he was betting a pair and a gutshot with a 6? Maybe 66? If so, is loose/passive the correct appellation? Either way, call the river bet, a 6 doesn't jive with the "loose passive" label and you a have top set.

[Grease]

His VPIP is 48, and his AF is .85. This hand was really poorly done on my part, and I'm trying to not see skeletons everywhere. Thanks for the response.

[ChicagoTroy]

Even if he's got the straight, you've got a lot of outs. Any 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or 7 gives you the a bigger straight, boat, or quads. That's 17 outs.

[J.R.]

Its so annoying to me when I go to type a response, and by the time I have it typed and posted, someone has already intervened with a post that says everything mine was intended to say. I feel marginalized and redundant. Good post.

[J.R.]

are you talking about the OCEAN? That's my favorite street.

[MoreWineII]

The OCEAN, that's funny. I make the call, I think, but I'm kinda nervous about not closing the action...

[jordanx]

Do you raise this pre-flop to try and isolate UTG +1 ?