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Old 11-11-2004, 04:21 AM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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Default Simple Question- What\'s your Plan?

You open raise UTG+1 with ATo and are immediately threebet. The BB calls and you call.

Flop is T93 rainbow.

What's your plan?

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Old 11-11-2004, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: Simple Question- What\'s your Plan?

bet and hope to get raised by the 3-bettor who you hopefully outflopped in an attempt to push out the BB. and then call down.
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Old 11-11-2004, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: Simple Question- What\'s your Plan?

Lead out. Different lines depending on subsequent action.
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Old 11-11-2004, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: Simple Question- What\'s your Plan?

Checkraise flop lead turn if called. Call down if 3bet
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Old 11-11-2004, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: Simple Question- What\'s your Plan?

my initial plan is to get a lot of chips in to make up for all the times i missed the flop and check folded

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Old 11-11-2004, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Simple Question- What\'s your Plan?

I like playing this fast. If the flop gets capped I probably lead the turn if no JQK comes, but if I get raised on the turn I call down or fold depending on the opponent. Of course if the person who three bet would not three bet without a big pair or AK, I may take a different line that ends up with me folding.
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Old 11-11-2004, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Simple Question- What\'s your Plan?

Probably bet-3bet, calling down to futher aggression.
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Old 11-11-2004, 02:32 PM
JinX11 JinX11 is offline
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Default Re: Simple Question- What\'s your Plan?

Depends on my read of the three-bettor:

Against a really good opponent, I probably check-call all the way down unless the board becomes very threatening.

Against a decent opponent, I probably bet out the flop.

Against a weaker opponent, maybe a check-raise on the flop and lead the turn, if not three-bet.
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Old 11-11-2004, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Simple Question- What\'s your Plan?

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Against a really good opponent, I probably check-call all the way down unless the board becomes very threatening.

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Is this because you think a really good opponent would only 3 bet with a pair higher then 10s?

A good opponent will 3bet you with any hand that is a bit average of what you raise.
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Old 11-11-2004, 09:02 PM
MrFeelNothin MrFeelNothin is offline
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Default Re: Simple Question- What\'s your Plan?

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Against a really good opponent, I probably check-call all the way down unless the board becomes very threatening.


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Is this because you think a really good opponent would only 3 bet with a pair higher then 10s?

A good opponent will 3bet you with any hand that is a bit average of what you raise.

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More likely Jin thinks a good player is more capable of laying down a midpair or AK when he is beat and more able to properly suck bets out of Jins A10 if he does have the overpair. Lose the least when hes behind/win the most when hes ahead. I'm not advocating that line, but against an opponent who will continue betting with overcards until raised it could be right. Check/call flop and turn and lead out on river.

I probably cr flop-lead turn.
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