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Do you ever fold this?
BB is lag (60/20), UTG is lag (80/11).
Flop cap standard against lags? Turn: Not sure about this one. The pot is getting big and one of these clowns could be overplaying something, but both of them? My flop cap/turn lead didn't seem to slow anyone down, is it time to toss this in the muck when it is 2 bets back to me? These meatballs could go on raising forever........ Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls. Flop: (12 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font> <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, UTG calls. Turn: (12 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font> <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero ..... |
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Re: Do you ever fold this?
UTG is playing like he has a set, BB could have AK, but thats just too much expensive to find out
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Re: Do you ever fold this?
Wow - I hate this action. Given that the villians are LAGs it is very difficult to read them.
I have certainly seen this kind of betting with a pair of Kings or a flush draw from LAGs. What bothers you (and me) is that they are both raising! I would probably reluctantly fold (and then curse myself if I do not get to see their cards at the end). I would bet that you are beat with either a set or 2 pair or possibly a straight. Even LAGs get good hands. |
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Re: Do you ever fold this?
Flop cap definitely standard.
On the turn it's iffy to me. It could be possible that you are facing a combination of draws/and or kings. But it certainly seems likely you are behind. With 18 big bets in the pot when it gets back to you, you are getting 9:1. So if you put any weight at all on you being ahead, and if you think that when you are behind then it might fairly frequently be to 2 pair, then I think you need to call. Against two pair you have 8 outs. So I think I call the turn. On the river I would probably call 1 bet unimproved. B. |
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Re: Do you ever fold this?
those preflop stats mean a lot, but are these guys real laggy post flop? depending on the answer to that question, i may or may not fold. if they are real laggy post flop, i am not letting go. if they could be doing this with AK or KQ and others... I am not giving credit for the set. these boys are seeing too many flops and there is a good enough chance you are ahead. if one of the guys has 2 pair and you happen to be behind, you got some outs if you need them.
If they are just laggy pf, but reasonable post flop I would consider folding more. |
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