5-10 Hand..What would you do?

#1 05-03-2002, 02:21 AM

Hello Again Everybody,

Stopped by Mohegan Sun and played in my least favorite stud limit. (5-10) I originally only jumped in cause it was the only seat in the house, I stayed in the game cause the lineup was FANTASTIC!!!!!! Unfortunately I took it up hard in the rear-end with no lubrication cause I had a 54 BB loss in 4 hours of play. ( worst session of year )

Anywhoo, Here is a hand to talk about!

Game was VERY PASSIVE with lots of calling stations and pay-offers( typical Connecticut 5-10 game ) There was 1 player who I would consider to be very good however. I was having a VERY difficult time trying to figure out opponents playing styles, well cause THEY couldn't figure that out for themselves...

3rd street

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4s to my immediate left brings it in for $2

Jc calls

9c calls

10s calls ( good player )

7h calls

4h calls

kh calls

(8c8d)Ad ME... calls

4th Street

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4s7c

JcJd --BETS $10 double bet

9c9s -- Calls

10s10h -- Calls( good player )

7hAs -- Folds

4hQs -- Folds

kh2c -- Folds

(8c8d)Ad8s ME

Whats my play.. Results to follow tommorow..

Later,

CJ

#2 05-03-2002, 03:34 AM

I'd give up on this hand.

If these players are playing with even a minimal amount of logic then this is what they are saying.

JcJd: I have at least pair of Jacks. I'm betting.

9c9s: I can either beat a pair of Jacks or have a strong draw against it.

10s10h: I can beat beat whatever draw those 9's have.

Only one of these three players needs to have trips in order for you to be in a very bad spot. The pot is small. Fold.

#3 05-03-2002, 03:48 AM

Fold, release the hand! There are three possible trips out there larger then trip 8s you've only $3 invested. Muck it, next hand please! I know it hurts but if you play this hand consistently over a long period of time I think your looking at a long term loser regardless the outcome of this individual hand.

#4 05-03-2002, 07:43 AM

CJ,

3rd street

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4s to my immediate left brings it in for $2

Jc calls

9c calls

10s calls ( good player )

7h calls

4h calls

kh calls

(8c8d)Ad ME... calls

Third street I would of raised to try and eliminate all the non-pair limpers with the two-flushes etc. Then 4th street would of been easier to play IMO.

paul

#5 05-03-2002, 09:55 AM

#6 05-03-2002, 11:43 AM

Get a crayon and mark in 7 more spots on the ace. (use magenta on plastic cards).

Seriously.. dump it and live another day.

BTW... I love the sun.

#7 05-03-2002, 01:13 PM

oen of them most likely has trips and all are higher than yours. so you should fold, unless there is some reason to think that none of them have it.

Note that yours is hidden and if the jacks bet caused the other two to fold then you could play on if the situation was right. but in reality this will rarely happen.

Pat

#8 05-03-2002, 01:15 PM

that will rarely happen if ever at the games in connecticut. at most youmight knock out two, but will play the hand with five players and a much bigger pot. calling is the correct play in these games.

Pat

#9 05-03-2002, 01:44 PM

Ad up no diamonds out no A's and you say it will only drop 2. I doubt just 2 I would say 4.

#10 05-03-2002, 01:50 PM

... you have to know your players. In my home game (also 5-10), for example, it's likely that in this example NONE of those three players would have trips, because everybody raises their pairs at third street. So, know your players. If these guys are the sort who would only call with pairs of jacks, tens, etc. on third street, then folding is the best play.

I also agree with earlier posts saying you should have raised on third street. In my (admittedly limited) casino experience, live Ace with a live pocket pair is an automatic raise. Amongst the many good reasons to do this is that if your opponent pairs his door card, you can throw away your hand with less agonizing because you know he already had something to call someone who was representing Aces.