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Old 10-25-2004, 01:47 AM
Tommy Angelo Tommy Angelo is offline
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Default one of the most well-disguised hands in the history

$20-40 at the Mirage. Three players limped (L1, L2 and L3). I raised on the button with 98s. One blind folded. Five players to the flop.

The flop was A-9-9 with two hearts. They all checked and I bet. The blind folded, L1 folded, L2 called, and L3 called. Three players. Both opponents were sensible crafty poker players.

The turn was the king of hearts. They checked to me and I bet. L2 called and L3 folded. Headsup. The river was a black eight, giving me nines full of eights. The board was Ah-9h-9s, Kh, 8c.

He checked and I bet. He checkraised. I made it three bets. He called.

What's he got?

I had him totally pegged. He limped behind a limper with small to medium hearts, he flopped a flush draw, he hit the flush on the turn, but he wanted to wait and see that the river was a non fourth heart (or pair or trips on board) and then make his move relatively safely on the river. The moment I became certain was on the river when he checked. I knew he was ready to checkraise. If I had not hit the full house on the river, I would have checked behind him on the river.

But, as it turns out, I did improve. So I had a little surprise for him when he checkraised. Boom. Three bets I made it. He slumped a little when he called.

I turned over my full house.

And it was not good.


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Old 10-25-2004, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: one of the most well-disguised hands in the history

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And it was not good.


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Your full house is not good and he did not re-raise you, or is that a typo?
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Old 10-25-2004, 02:21 AM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Default Re: one of the most well-disguised hands in the history

Tommy:

Good meeting with you at the Mirage. Since you and I already discussed this hand, I won't reveal the answers. However, as we also discussed, I think that it was misplayed by your opponent to the tune of one big bet (and perhaps slightly more, considering possible alternative early round decisions).

I felt this hand also highlighted another typicality of the modern poker craze, we'll see if anyone else spots it too.

al
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Old 10-25-2004, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: one of the most well-disguised hands in the history

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What's he got?

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K9s?
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Old 10-25-2004, 02:24 AM
Steve Giufre Steve Giufre is offline
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Default Re: one of the most well-disguised hands in the history

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And it was not good.


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Your full house is not good and he did not re-raise you, or is that a typo?

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The guy must have had K9 and feared Tommy had made kings or aces full.
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Old 10-25-2004, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: one of the most well-disguised hands in the history

I'm guessing opponent is one of those people who do not raise big hands (i.e. KK) preflop in hopes of minimizing exposure without seeing the community cards and perhaps of outplaying opponents postflop as they will not put him on KK in a million years. This same tendency led him to suspect Tommy had to have AA and opt for the calldown.

Just for the record, K9o/A9o is also a distinct possibility for this precise type of player.
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Old 10-25-2004, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: one of the most well-disguised hands in the history

Tommy's description of his opponents as sensible/crafty made me think KK was out of the question.
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Old 10-25-2004, 02:32 AM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Default Re: one of the most well-disguised hands in the history

I can vouch for the fact...

THAT IS NOT A TYPO.

al
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Old 10-25-2004, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: one of the most well-disguised hands in the history

The player must of had KK for the turned full house. I have seen an increasing rate of check-raises from fish occur one street after they make their hand lately.

This player called 3 bets instead of making it 4 not because he was scared of AA, but because he didnt know why you were raising and decided to call. Just about every week I see someone (fish) bet, then get raised and just call with the nuts (even with quads or better).

on a sidenote I was at the table with you and Ed friday night when you sat at the 10/20 for about 1 hour after getting cold decked at the 20/40 game. Wouldnt you know it, you were still cold decked in that game too.
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Old 10-25-2004, 04:19 AM
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Default Re: one of the most well-disguised hands in the history

Tommy wasn't getting cold decked-- that is just how he plays.
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