mirage hand

[Tommy Angelo]

Full $20-40 at the Mirage. I was in the one seat on chatter with Gabe in the two seat. The Babe was in the six seat. All the other people were clones.

I was on the button. UTG folded, UTG+1 open-limped, Babe limped, the next player raised, the next two players both cold-called, I called, Gabe folded, the big blind called, the limpers called. Seven players.

The flop was 3-2-2 (or 3-3-2) with one heart. My hand was J4 of hearts. It was checked to the Babe and she bet. I put her on a pocket pair lower than jacks. The next three players called one bet. I called.

Later away from the table I was talking about this flop decision with Gabe, Ed and mike. We all thought that folding would have been a definite mistake. Thoughts?

The turn was the 6 of hearts, giving me a gutshot and a flush draw. I called one bet from somewhere and so did a few other people.

The last card was the ace of hearts. UTG+1 bet out. The Babe folded. One player called in front of me, and I called. UTG+1 tabled 8-5 of hearts for a flush. I showed and won.

I thought the hand was a no-brainer from start to finish the way it went down but I thought I'd post it because all the really interesting hands I played involve me check-calling or check-folding when I should have lost more.

VIVA!


Tommy

[slavic]

All the other people were clones.

Of Babe or Gabe?

Certainly not 6 copies of you?

NiHand, I'm weak and would raise the river and curse the 3 bet.

[beerbandit]

i dont really understand the call before the flop. you do have position, but half the casino is still left to act after the raise has been put in and youll be able to lay the hand down easily if you miss. i know this is one call that i would not make, maybe im missing out. i can make the assumption by what i have read that you play well post flop, still.....

after the flop the hand looks good

cheers
beer

[andyfox]

I'm jealous. A game with you, Gabe and the Babe in it is delicious. Maybe not profitable, but who cares? Did Gabe bring his guitar?

FWIW, I fold pre-flop and on the flop. I raise on the river. Which probably wouldn't have been successful given that I wouldn't have had cards by then. But I got away with it once.

"All the other people were clones."

Priceless.

What did Gabe, Ed and Mike think about the pre-flop call and the river non-raise?

[Robb]

Side Note/Question:
Tommy,
You post a lot of hands where (at least to some) you make too tight plays in EP and too loose plays in LP.

How do you play hands in MP?

I would assume the answer is similar to how you play in EP...if so, how similar (in general)?

Regards

[slavic]

If he hits his hand he'll be paid off well by people who call way too much, just by the preflop action. Yes trash suited is just trash suited but he's getting a nice price here. Often you find spots were falling back to SS strategy works. Now are you giving up much by not playing it? Probably not, in fact you may be saving yourself quite a bit if you have trouble getting away from hands. If you play well postflop though, why not?

Now do I play well post flop? Heck if I know, I do seem to get lucky alot though. Tommy seems to play well, though that whole check check check post just seemed wrong.

Oh and Tommy wouldn't raising give you the opportunity to not have to show?

[Rick Nebiolo]

[ QUOTE ]
I was on the button. UTG folded, UTG+1 open-limped, Babe limped, the next player raised, the next two players both cold-called, I called, Gabe folded, the big blind called, the limpers called. Seven players....My hand was J4 of hearts.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sometimes I'm astonished (based on many of your old posts) by the hands you throw away for one more bet in the blinds. Now you call two bets cold on the button with jack four suited. I've read about your love of the button but what gives? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I wouldn't call for one bet (but I think it is close) [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

BTW, agree that you have an easy call on the flop with big odds and two backdoor draws and an iffy out in the jack.

~ Rick

[SossMan]

I don't get the preflop call. The flop call looks thin, but okay given that the PFR just called.
I don't understand not raising the river.

[Tommy Angelo]

"You post a lot of hands where (at least to some) you make too tight plays in EP and too loose plays in LP. How do you play hands in MP?"

Too tight.

[andyfox]

It becomes correct to call on the flop often when one incorrectly cold-calls pre-flop, because the pot's big and it's hard not to have some kind of backdoor or overcard out.

The big issue is: what did Babe say when Tommy showed J-4?
[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] The more I think about it, maybe Tommy didn't raise just so he could show it. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]