Intentionally walking Beltran was dumb

Nate tha' Great · #1 10-20-2004, 07:20 PM

Discuss. I think you try and get ahead in the count against him and then bail if you fall behind 2-0 or 3-1.

Michael Davis · #2 10-20-2004, 07:22 PM

I think you should almost always do this, excepting Bonds.

-Michael

ThaSaltCracka · #3 10-20-2004, 07:25 PM

do you even want to give him a pitch to hit though? This is the guy who hit a HR off of Tavarez that wasn't even a strike. I shudder to think what he would have done with anything over the plate there.

Losing all · #4 10-20-2004, 07:25 PM

I dunno. The guy is breaking records he set the day before, every day. Easy walk.

nolanfan34 · #5 10-20-2004, 07:26 PM

I'd much rather have a righty/righty matchup than face Beltran. Bagwell hasn't hit for as much power this season, with his injury problems, I don't see any reason to even throw a strike to Beltran and see it deposited in the right field seats.

I think LaRussa made the right call, it didn't work, but I still think it was right.

Sundevils21 · #6 10-20-2004, 07:27 PM

maybe. but don't throw strikes to begin with. If you can somehow manage to get ahead of him by throwing garbage then keep going. definatly bail out if it's 2-0.

Nate tha' Great · #7 10-20-2004, 07:30 PM

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do you even want to give him a pitch to hit though? This is the guy who hit a HR off of Tavarez that wasn't even a strike. I shudder to think what he would have done with anything over the plate there.

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Izzy is a better pitcher than Tavarez. I trust him to work the corners or try and get Beltran to bite on some breaking stuff.

Clarkmeister · #8 10-20-2004, 07:34 PM

I give you two items to consider.

1. Every Cardinal fan in the universe wanted to walk Beltran.

2. Every Astro fan in the universe wanted to see Izzy pitch to him.

I rest my case.

ThaSaltCracka · #9 10-20-2004, 07:36 PM

Izzy is better, but the pitch Beltran hit off of Tavarez was in a perfect location. I have only seen Vlad hit a HR on such a bad pitch.

Beltran is to hot right now to even think about pitching to in that situation.

nolanfan34 · #10 10-20-2004, 07:37 PM

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I trust him to work the corners or try and get Beltran to bite on some breaking stuff.

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This is another reason I think LaRussa walked Beltran. Izzy hasn't been sharp working the corners tonight, and if he makes a mistake pitch, he probably would rather make it against Bagwell than Beltran.