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AQs, how many mistakes?
I was new to the table so had no reads at the time. I initially suspected the CO to be a decent player, but after several orbits of play I would be proven wrong. He was willing to call many bets preflop with just about any type of hand.
Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls. Preflop was about the only street I actually felt good about. Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls. Now if the CO was raising the flop with a big club, I don't want him taking a free card on the turn. Also, if he has a weak ace I charge him by betting, and I wouldn't completely hate him raising again if it knocks out the BB who may have had a weak club draw. So I bet the turn. Turn: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls. River: (11 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font> <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls. I'm going to call a bet on the end anyway, so I decided to bet. I doubt that a better hand will fold, but I may get a call from weaker hands that would have checked it through. Oops he raised, worse yet I call. Did I totally misapply the Clark four flush theorem here? Final Pot: 15 BB <font color="green">Main Pot: 15 BB, between Hero and CO.</font> |
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Re: AQs, how many mistakes?
doesnt his theorem involve folding to a raise? I forget.
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#3
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Re: AQs, how many mistakes?
CO = K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Tx ?
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Results
The CO had J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for the flopped flush.
Gotta love Party, but I'm curious what people think of leading into him again on the turn and on the river after he has raised me. |
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Re: Results
i think stop and go was the right play. the river screwed you. get away from the raise on the end.
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Re: AQs, how many mistakes?
Did I totally misapply the Clark four flush theorem here?
The statement that Clark made about rivered 4-flushes was true. Applying it to this hand is stupid. GoT |
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Re: Results
[ QUOTE ]
The CO had J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for the flopped flush. Gotta love Party, but I'm curious what people think of leading into him again on the turn and on the river after he has raised me. [/ QUOTE ] I just read the results but even before I peeked I was hating the turn play. I understand you thinking that you likely have the best hand, and didnt want him to take a free one on the turn. But after you bet and get popped, you cant beat a thing. You have now shown strength on three streets in a row, and you got raised. It's time to throw your hand away. But before you bet the turn, if you think he is the type who may raise you with a worse hand, I think you need to check call. Agaist tricky types who are capable of making that play betting and folding to a raise is too exploitable there. On the river GOT is right, this just isnt the time to be leading at the 4 flush. I think you need to ask yourself if he's going to fold a worse hand with this many bets in the pot. He will pay it off with three tens. Also, there a lot of situations where you might get called by a worse hand even when the four flush has hit. This is defintely not one of those times either. |
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Re: Results
Steve, thanks for the response, it sounds like the turn was the time to get away from this hand. |
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Re: AQs, how many mistakes?
<ul type="square"> [*]Cost of purchasing HPFAP, TOP and SSH: $75 [*]Getting beat up in the Party $15-$30 game: $900 [*]Having GuyOnTilt call you stupid: Priceless! [/list] Seriously though, how the F*!# does that help me, or anyone? I know the hand was not well played, that is why I posted it asking about the mistakes. I don't have years of playing experience, but I'm trying to get better in these situations by understanding WHY it is stupid. |
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Re: AQs, how many mistakes?
If this hand was played right when you entered the table then you were horribly out drawn and made a bad bet on the river aand a marginal one on the turn but if you have been sitting there and realized this guy will play anything i think you did the right play until the lead in on the river because [censored] knows what this guy has
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