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Old 10-13-2004, 10:12 PM
Action Scott Action Scott is offline
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Default All-In Preflop vs. Aces

Preflop quiz for ya. What hand do you think gives the best statistical odds going all-in, preflop vs. pocket Aces? The answer to come...
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:26 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: All-In Preflop vs. Aces

I don't think people are going for it.
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:27 PM
LethalRose LethalRose is offline
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Default Re: All-In Preflop vs. Aces

as i suspected, 8-9 suited.


Texas Hold'em, 100000 combinations tested.
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
Hand | AsAc | KhKd |
------+--------------+--------------+
Win | 81182 | 18420 |
Draw | 398 | 398 |
Lose | 18420 | 81182 |
------+--------------+--------------+
Win% | 81.38% | 18.62% |
------+--------------+--------------+


AsAc:
Pair win: 24894 draw: 0 lose: 10182
Two Pair win: 32424 draw: 0 lose: 6747
Three of a Kind win: 11357 draw: 0 lose: 742
Straight win: 692 draw: 397 lose: 117
Flush win: 2021 draw: 0 lose: 295
Full House win: 8831 draw: 0 lose: 337
Quads win: 955 draw: 1 lose: 0
Straight Flush win: 8 draw: 0 lose: 0


KhKd:
Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 35181
Two Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 39398
Three of a Kind win: 8983 draw: 0 lose: 3106
Straight win: 728 draw: 397 lose: 108
Flush win: 1903 draw: 0 lose: 263
Full House win: 5915 draw: 0 lose: 3097
Quads win: 879 draw: 1 lose: 29
Straight Flush win: 12 draw: 0 lose: 0
************************************************** **********************************

Texas Hold'em, 100000 combinations tested.

Hand | AsAc | 9d8d |
------+--------------+--------------+
Win | 77054 | 22626 |
Draw | 320 | 320 |
Lose | 22626 | 77054 |
------+--------------+--------------+
Win% | 77.21% | 22.79% |
------+--------------+--------------+


AsAc:
Pair win: 24263 draw: 0 lose: 11212
Two Pair win: 30357 draw: 0 lose: 8801
Three of a Kind win: 10051 draw: 0 lose: 2209
Straight win: 919 draw: 240 lose: 211
Flush win: 2097 draw: 76 lose: 53
Full House win: 8493 draw: 0 lose: 140
Quads win: 862 draw: 0 lose: 0
Straight Flush win: 12 draw: 4 lose: 0


9d8d:
High Card win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 14515
Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 39172
Two Pair win: 3639 draw: 0 lose: 18737
Three of a Kind win: 2530 draw: 0 lose: 1915
Straight win: 8443 draw: 240 lose: 939
Flush win: 6085 draw: 76 lose: 928
Full House win: 1591 draw: 0 lose: 829
Quads win: 133 draw: 0 lose: 19
Straight Flush win: 205 draw: 4 lose: 0



************************************************** **********************************
Texas Hold'em, 100000 combinations tested.

Hand | AsAc | QdTh |
------+--------------+--------------+
Win | 83650 | 16057 |
Draw | 293 | 293 |
Lose | 16057 | 83650 |
------+--------------+--------------+
Win% | 83.8% | 16.2% |
------+--------------+--------------+


AsAc:
Pair win: 27324 draw: 0 lose: 7759
Two Pair win: 33689 draw: 0 lose: 5962
Three of a Kind win: 10279 draw: 0 lose: 1966
Straight win: 724 draw: 293 lose: 148
Flush win: 2052 draw: 0 lose: 103
Full House win: 8614 draw: 0 lose: 118
Quads win: 959 draw: 0 lose: 1
Straight Flush win: 9 draw: 0 lose: 0


QdTh:
High Card win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 16787
Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 43083
Two Pair win: 3538 draw: 0 lose: 20012
Three of a Kind win: 2501 draw: 0 lose: 2008
Straight win: 6357 draw: 293 lose: 597
Flush win: 1942 draw: 0 lose: 288
Full House win: 1591 draw: 0 lose: 853
Quads win: 107 draw: 0 lose: 22
Straight Flush win: 21 draw: 0 lose: 0

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Old 10-13-2004, 10:29 PM
zephyr zephyr is offline
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Default Re: All-In Preflop vs. Aces

It's been covered a number of times
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Old 10-14-2004, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: All-In Preflop vs. Aces

right, 89suited. I was just messing around w/ new program i downloaded.
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Old 10-14-2004, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: All-In Preflop vs. Aces

56s is the best because it takes away AA's A2345 straight possibility.

-SmileyEH
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Old 10-14-2004, 05:49 AM
Phill S Phill S is offline
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Default Re: All-In Preflop vs. Aces

really, 56s? i always thought it was 45s or 56s (having the 5 in your hand helps a great deal).

ive never done the computing behind it.

so next time someone raises and im dealt KK, ill just have to curse that i didnt get 56s... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

kiddin it is interesting theory,
Phill
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Old 10-14-2004, 02:31 PM
Marcotte Marcotte is offline
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Default Re: All-In Preflop vs. Aces

[ QUOTE ]
56s is the best because it takes away AA's A2345 straight possibility.

-SmileyEH

[/ QUOTE ]

What about T9s? Shouldn't it be symetric?
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Old 10-14-2004, 02:38 PM
rjb03 rjb03 is offline
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Default Re: All-In Preflop vs. Aces

No. He can still make nut straights if you hold T9s but not with 56s.
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Old 10-14-2004, 02:44 PM
Marcotte Marcotte is offline
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Default Re: All-In Preflop vs. Aces

Duh. I am such an idiot.

My first instinct was that holding 2 of his straight cards (e.g. 45) would be better, but now I see that with 56, he can't make a straight without me making a straight too.
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