Not sure I like this, please criticize

Gar Pike · #1 10-13-2004, 01:34 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG (t490)
UTG+1 (t797)
MP1 (t935)
Hero (t965)
MP3 (t1695)
CO (t765)
Button (t710)
SB (t725)
BB (t918)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, 2 folds, Hero raises to t45, MP3 calls t45, 3 folds, BB calls t30, UTG calls t30.

Flop: (t190) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t95, MP3 folds, BB calls t95, UTG folds.

Turn: (t380) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t150, BB raises to t500, Hero calls t350.

I hated this. I had the strong feeling I was looking at a flush, when the 2 of clubs hit. Had this been for all my chips, I think I would have folded.

River card in white, if you want to look

 River: (t1380) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets t278 (All-In), Hero calls t278. 

Final Pot: t1936
Main Pot: t1936 (t1936), between Hero and BB.

I think this is another example of bad play, brought to you by Gar, the Fish.

You?...

Regards,

Gar

housenuts · #2 10-13-2004, 01:41 AM

I don't like raising PF in EP with 22. I also really dislike betting out the flop with 3 overcards with 22. The only way I play this hand from EP is limp, and then either set or jet (has that term been used before?) on the flop

lastchance · #3 10-13-2004, 01:46 AM

99-22 is a set value hand at L1 and L2. Don't raise at all with these hands, and if you don't find a set or overpair, you check-fold.

Gar Pike · #4 10-13-2004, 03:10 PM

So, what I was "thinking"...

Early on in a tournament, I will spend a few chips on 'advertising'

I generally fold 22 in EP, as the repliers to-date have suggested. No argument, this hand is not how I typically play 2's

Sadly, the card that sets me up, sets me up. Hoist on my own petard, so to speak. He has a flush, I know he does.

So, Man being the animal that rationalizes, I see 10 outs. Never mind that the money doesn't justify calling, I have 10 outs. Or does it? It's 350:1010 plus if I hit, the rest of his chips. Good enough?

If you peeked at the river card, you know I hit the boat on the river.

Opponent shows Kc 6C.

I went on to win this one, but I think it was more luck than skill.

Regards

Gar

rjb03 · #5 10-13-2004, 03:25 PM

What buy in was this? Advertising at low limits usually doesn't help you much. It's unlikely you'll even make it to showdown here to show your bad play to the others and the only thing you're losing is chips. Don't call 500 chips on the turn. Push or fold.

juris · #6 10-13-2004, 03:45 PM

Gar:

I was so convinced you lost this hand, even after concluding the guy "must" have the flush, I went back before reading all of the posts, and guessed he had pocket 9's and played the hand just as bad and "stole" the pot from you.

Congrats on the win, but I agree with those who said play the pocket 2's for set or fold value on the flop.