AQo in the SB. Things get hectic postflop on a paired/flush board.

bisonbison · #1 10-07-2004, 07:03 PM

UTG is really loose and pretty aggro. Not a maniac. But really loose and pretty aggro.

MP is a little loose but passive.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 raises, Button folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (13.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets...

Alobar · #2 10-07-2004, 07:12 PM

I really dont like the river bet. Youve got a passive player raising on the flop. he then raises an aggro when the flush card falls. So I think hes got at least a ten, or a flush. JT and KT are likely holdings for a ten he could have in his hand. The way the hand has played out you have no reason to think its getting checked through on this river, and you have to call a raise but would rather not have to. Just check and call.

I'd say that a turn fold might not be to horrible, but I know that would get me ripped on.

ode · #3 10-07-2004, 07:14 PM

I'm not sure if I like the river bet. There's quite a bunch of hands that beat you, that loose players would have played. UTG perhaps with any two suited diamonds (if he is really that loose). MP1 could have KT, AT, JT etc...

Well, maybe it's weak but I would be afraid of getting the hand back even 3-bet in worse case scenario. I think there's reasonable chance you'r beat. I would just check-call river...

/ode

el_grande · #4 10-07-2004, 07:20 PM

Don't like the river bet. MP is passive. How often do you see a passive player without a flush turn raise when a flush card hits? I believe less than 50%.

Therefore there can be no value bet on the river unless another diamond came for you.

And I'm not crazy about raising preflop with AQo from the SB.

bisonbison · #5 10-07-2004, 07:22 PM

And I'm not crazy about raising preflop with AQo from the SB.

This preflop raise is so easy it's not funny.

el_grande · #6 10-07-2004, 07:23 PM

I know it's fashionable to push that edge, I guess I'm old school when it comes to AQo. I raise with it when I can limit the field.

InchoateHand · #7 10-07-2004, 07:25 PM

You don't make value raises? AQo here is no different than 4 to the flush on the flop with four opponents--I'm not raising there to limit the field either.

Alobar · #8 10-07-2004, 07:26 PM

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I know it's fashionable to push that edge, I guess I'm old school when it comes to AQo. I raise with it when I can limit the field.

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pushing edges isnt "fashionable" its how winning players make their money. The only reason to pass up on a +EV play is if there is a better play to be made later. This isnt such a case, IMO

bisonbison · #9 10-07-2004, 07:26 PM

We're not having a preflop discussion in this thread. Raising here, particularly after loose players, is big-time EV.

That's it. That's all.

Alobar · #10 10-07-2004, 07:27 PM

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We're not having a preflop discussion in this thread. Raising here, particularly after loose players, is big-time EV.

That's it. That's all.

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so it is written, so shall it be [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]