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Old 10-03-2004, 06:08 PM
Nottom Nottom is offline
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Default Hand from the Party 1/4 Million

This was a tough hand for me, I think a case can be made for a variety of options at each spot.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 (t1455)
CO (t655)
Button (t1355)
<font color="C00000">SB (t750)</font>
<font color="C00000">BB (t1460)</font>
UTG (t995)
<font color="C00000">UTG+1 (t1140)</font>
UTG+2 (t950)
MP1 (t1975)
<font color="C00000">Hero (t1105)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of t30.
UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t75</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t60, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t45.

Flop: (t255) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets t200</font>, Hero calls t200, BB calls t200.

Turn: (t855) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets t865 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t830 (All-In), BB calls t865.

River: (t3415) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3415
<font color="green">Main Pot: t3345 (t3345), between BB, UTG+1 and Hero.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: t70 (t70), between BB and UTG+1.</font>

I'll give my thoughts after some others have given theirs.
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Old 10-03-2004, 06:18 PM
Rocaix Rocaix is offline
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Default Re: Hand from the Party 1/4 Million

Seemslike UTG+1 has a set, the way it was played indicates he's scared of a flush draw, especially given that both you and BB merely called his flop bet.

While it's tempting to call the all-in when you make two-pair, unless you have a great read on UTG+1, you have to very reluctantly lay this down. At lower buyins I've seen this type of play before as lead-in semi-bluffs, but at higher buyins you have to give UTG+1 credit for a made hand here without a strong read.
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Old 10-03-2004, 06:45 PM
Garland Garland is offline
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Default Re: Hand from the Party 1/4 Million

If you choose to raise preflop, I would have raise more than T75. This is little more than a "mini-raise" that will certainly be called when you actually want them to fold. In your position, I'd raise to about T100-T120 and lean toward the high end because of the limper.

The flop is bittersweet. You've hit the top pair/top kicker, but the hands that are likely to call your preflop raise (and not reraise) are KQ and pocket pairs. Based on the action, I have almost no doubts that at the very least you're up against a flush draw from BB. On the flop, I think you simply can't wait for the turn. I think you need to pull the trigger here and charge the max for draws.

The turn is actually pretty bad despite making top two, and I might get flamed for this, but if you simply called the flop, I'd probably fold it here. The straight got there, and UTG+1 has shown no fear of the A. He either has a straight or a set. At best he has two pair of J10, but even then you still have to worry about BB behind you.

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