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Old 09-26-2004, 10:00 PM
ilya ilya is offline
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Default Play back or fold?

I re-raised all-in, not entirely sure if it was a bit of desperation tilt or the right move.
(I was in the big blind, so I had 180 left).


***** Hand History for Game 992242616 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:6113377 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Monday, September 27, 00:53:16 EDT 2004
Table Table 14513 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: boxorayn ( $775 )
Seat 5: mike475 ( $1610 )
Seat 6: ArmyDude ( $3925 )
Seat 7: mrzarembsky ( $280 )
Seat 9: mainmanrick ( $1410 )
Trny:6113377 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mrzarembsky [ Ks Th ]
mainmanrick folds.
boxorayn folds.
mike475 raises [250].
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Old 09-26-2004, 10:04 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: Play back or fold?

IMO this is an easy one. You have less than 3 BBs, which means you will not survive two orbits without getting lucky, and even if you do, doubling up only once will put you back where you are now. I think you just have to grit your teeth and push this one in.
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Old 09-27-2004, 02:22 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Play back or fold?

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IMO this is an easy one. You have less than 3 BBs, which means you will not survive two orbits without getting lucky, and even if you do, doubling up only once will put you back where you are now. I think you just have to grit your teeth and push this one in.

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i think a more interesting one is: would you call here with any two cards?

i think i've read you shouldn't fold if you put in 1/3 of your stack in the blind, but that was talking about a multi-table tournament - don't know if it applies.
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Old 09-27-2004, 05:58 AM
parappa parappa is offline
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Default Re: Play back or fold?

I think this is pretty easy as well. I'm not sure that I'm pushing with any 2, but I think that you have to go all in here with any reasonable hand.
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:04 AM
ilya ilya is offline
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I think this is pretty easy as well. I'm not sure that I'm pushing with any 2, but I think that you have to go all in here with any reasonable hand.

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Hmm, really? I've been folding hands like Q8 in this spot...you're saying you think I should push back with them?
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Old 09-27-2004, 12:30 PM
parappa parappa is offline
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Default Re: Play back or fold?

Is your 280 before or after posting? If it's before and you have 180, I think you have to push with any 2. If it's after, and you have 280 left, then you're risking 280 to win a 760 pot (I think?) I'd definitely call with KT there, because you're no worse than like 40:60 to ace/9orless or a lower pair.

I think that Q8 in that spot is much tougher and would depend on your read of the opponent and (finishes tap dancing)...but I think that I'd call. This is my read for 10+1, remember, but I think that you're going to see an ace or a pair in that spot 2/3 of the time and the other third things like KQ-K8, QJ-Q8, JT, and mho is that you're more like a 65:35 dog to that group of hands, so I would push. And I think that if there's any chance your opponent will make a terrible laydown here, it's much easier.
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