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Old 09-20-2004, 06:38 PM
Emoney Emoney is offline
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Default Why am I not supposed to cash out over 10k?

not that i'm about to or anything, but for future reference. i remember some stuff on this a little while ago. what happens if you do so?
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Old 09-20-2004, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Why am I not supposed to cash out over 10k?

Go ahead raise flags with the feds.
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Old 09-20-2004, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Why am I not supposed to cash out over 10k?

spontaneous combustion.



You might also increase your chances of an audit, and even though you pay your taxes and keep meticulous records [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] that is still quite a headache [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].
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Old 09-20-2004, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Why am I not supposed to cash out over 10k?

is it an automated response? as in withdraw 10k, receive notice from government. or does it take someone noticing and caring?

is it a hard and fast number @ 10k? or would 9k do the same thing? 11,12 or 15?
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Old 09-20-2004, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: Why am I not supposed to cash out over 10k?

They do notice if you transfer $9990 multiple times, too.
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Old 09-20-2004, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Why am I not supposed to cash out over 10k?

You probably want to watch out about giving an appearance of doing anything wrong, too. Being "clever" can backfire severely.

Mafia dudes have long spoken in codes both when they chat at home and over the phone. They've found out that doesn't protect them from conspiracy charges, but actually gives credence to them. People wouldn't be talking in code unless they were conspiring, the logic goes, and juries buy it pretty easily.

Not that the mafia types have much choice but to try to mask their activities, but obvious attempts to do so can be a devastating counter to your claims that "I wasn't doin' nuthin!"

You probably don't want to be lumped in with those guys in the minds of the IRS or law enforcement.
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Old 09-20-2004, 07:16 PM
benfranklin benfranklin is offline
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Default Re: Why am I not supposed to cash out over 10k?

Banks in the US are required to report cash transactions of $10,000 or more. I believe they are also required to report any suspicious cash transactions, like if someone deposits $9,000 several times, appearing to be trying to avoid the $10K trigger.

Casinos like Party and bankers like Neteller are not in the US, so they are not subject to US reporting requirements. The question is whether US banks have to report electronic transfers. (Anyone know about reporting requirements?) If nothing else, the transfer to your bank account would be on your bank statements if you ever got audited by the IRS.
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Old 09-20-2004, 07:41 PM
skaboomizzy skaboomizzy is offline
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Default Re: Why am I not supposed to cash out over 10k?

the $10,000 figure is for cash only. If you withdraw or deposit a total of $10K or more in the space of a day, in one single or multiple transactions, the bank is required to fill out a CTR (Currency Transaction Report).

This applies ONLY to cash. Neteller, etc are treated like electronic transfers... much like direct deposit of your paycheck, or a PayPal payment that you transfer to your account. Many banks have customers that transact over $3-4M in checks a day, and as far as I know there's no additional paperwork required.

I think you'd draw the eye of the IRS more with a series of $9900 electronic payments/deposits than you would with a single payout of $45K or something.
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Old 09-20-2004, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Its this simple

Any transactions above 10,001 dollars is automatically reported to the IRS.

I'm not sure about foreign sites but as soon as it his a US Bank it is flagged and tagged.

Keep it at 9500 and you'll be good.
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Old 09-20-2004, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Its this simple

One of the standard questions now when you cross the border from Canada to the US is "Are you carrying more than $10,000 in cash". The standard answer of course is "I wish!".
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