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Old 09-20-2004, 09:38 AM
Sam T. Sam T. is offline
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Default Nicked by the flop (one that\'s been eating at me)

End of the second hour at a Stars $10+1 rebuy. (Note these suckers are LONG. Do NOT start one tired.) Table is really tight, with most pre-flop raises taking down the blinds, which are getting big. (I don't have the hand history - sorry.)

Hero is on the button with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], and it's folded to him. He raises 3xBB, and is called by the BB, who has half as many chips as Our Hero.

Flop:

2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

The BB checks, which just screams overcards. (If he's got an overpair smaller than AA, there's no way he's going to risk a free card.)

Hero's play?
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Old 09-20-2004, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: Nicked by the flop (one that\'s been eating at me)

Um.. Bet the Pot.
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Old 09-20-2004, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: Nicked by the flop (one that\'s been eating at me)

If you raise before the flop, and the blinds check to you on the flop, you should be betting here like 70% of the time regardless of whether or not you hit (unless the blinds have climbed to a high enough level that taking a stab at the pot will mean you go all-in), and the other 30% should be roughly split between when you give-up on a pot, when you have a monster, and when you have a good good draw.
Bet and fold to a c-raise, and yes, your opponent might have a smaller overpair and be waiting to c-raise you, as given the fact that you should be betting a lot, he would not necessarily be wrong to take a small risk here in order to win more chips.
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Old 09-20-2004, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: Nicked by the flop (one that\'s been eating at me)

Since you want to bet most of the time after you raise pre-flop, I don't see why you wouldn't bet here. If you check and your opponent auto-bets the turn, you will have no idea where you stand.
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Old 09-20-2004, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: Nicked by the flop (one that\'s been eating at me)

Okay - he checks, and I bet half the pot - maybe 20% of my stack, but nearly half of his.

Question: Since I'm not particularly interested in a call, I suppose a push would have been the better bet here? If he sees my half-pot bet as weak, I'm just asking to be re-raised.

He comes over the top for his entire stack...

I make a horrible(?) decision and call. (Looking back, I'm not sure what the right play would have been. Against an over-pair I'm pretty close to toast, but I'm a 3:1 favorite against overcards, which was my read. Is this one of those cases when patience is a virtue, and I should wait for a better opportunity to risk half my stack? What about pushing small edges?)

And not to be results oriented, he did indeed have overcards, flipping up A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. The turn is 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (giving me two pair), and I crack open the bubbly. Then he rivers another club for runner-runner flush.

Is calling the all-in a horrible decision, or am I just being results-oriented?
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Old 09-20-2004, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: Nicked by the flop (one that\'s been eating at me)

generally speaking i dont like betting half of somebody's stack. Its just enough that you probably have to call if they move-in, and just little enough that they might think you will fold if they reraise.
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Old 09-20-2004, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: Nicked by the flop (one that\'s been eating at me)

If half the pot is half his stack, I would just set him all-in. You certainly caught enough of the flop to justify it.
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