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Old 09-19-2004, 03:45 PM
Abagadro Abagadro is offline
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Default Flopped bottom 2 pair in BB

Very early in the Empire 30/3. I felt completely handcuffed in this hand. Interested in comments.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero (t1410)
UTG (t660)
UTG+1 (t735)
MP1 (t1110)
<font color="C00000">MP2 (t2540)</font>
<font color="C00000">MP3 (t695)</font>
CO (t1022)
Button (t1260)
SB (t1850)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t30, MP3 calls t30, CO calls t30, Button folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t180) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets t125</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises to t250</font>, CO folds, SB folds, Hero folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls t125.

Turn: (t680) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP3 bets t250</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises to t500</font>, MP3 calls t165 (All-In).

River: (t1595) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1595
<font color="green">Main Pot: t1510 (t1510), between MP2 and MP3.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP3 (t1510).</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: t85 (t85), returned to MP2.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
MP2 has Ah 8c (two pair, aces and tens).
MP3 has Js Ad (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: MP3 wins t1510. MP2 wins t85. </font>
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Old 09-19-2004, 03:57 PM
over_c over_c is offline
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Default Re: Flopped bottom 2 pair in BB

I will preface this comment by saying I looked at the results, but I don't think I am being results oriented.

I could see the weak bet by MP2 is a flush draw or a weak ace. The min-raise by MP3 is probably an ace. It is unlikely either of them have a set as AA and maybe TT would be raised pre-flop and since you have a T6 that further reduces the likelihood of a player having 66 or TT. With the same reasoning I doubt you would be up against A6 or AT. I think your hand is good.

I probably would have check-raised all-in with this hand on the flop. Or, with the flush draw on board, a pot-size or higher bet to open on the flop. But either way this is definitely a hand to get all your money in with on the flop.
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