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Old 09-16-2004, 04:36 PM
ilya ilya is offline
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Default Marginal (?) push hand

It's 7-handed.
The blinds are 50/100.
You're UTG with 650 chips and A9o.

Under what (if any) circumstances do you push?
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:21 PM
ChrisV ChrisV is offline
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Default Re: Marginal (?) push hand

I'd fold. It isn't really that great a hand and my experience is that people love picking off those UTG steals. I've had people call me with AT before.

I'd rather run a steal on the button or cutoff with a random hand than try it with A9 from here.

The only exception is if blinds are up on me next hand. In that instance I'd move in as the blinds will cripple me otherwise.
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:35 PM
patrick dicaprio patrick dicaprio is offline
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Default Re: Marginal (?) push hand

almost never. the problem with Ax steals is that a better ace calls and you are dominated. i think you are better off with suited connectors here than with Ax.

Pat
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:45 PM
ddubois ddubois is offline
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Default Re: Marginal (?) push hand

The theory goes that since you have an ace, you have increased fold equity by virtue of it being less likely others also have an ace.

It sure doesn't feel that way in practice though.
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:47 PM
deuces09 deuces09 is offline
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Default Re: Marginal (?) push hand

I would never push this thing UTG. Button or SB when folded to perhaps (dependant on the scenario) but never UTG.
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: Marginal (?) push hand

If the blinds go up to 100/200 on the next hand, it's a clear push IMO. I don't think it's a bad push period, because of the doubling blind level that's coming up, which is going to leave you very short-stacked very soon.

You're hoping not to get called, but you could get called by an underpair, or a loose call by a worse Ace/KQs, etc.

But I probably have a tendency to overpush if anything, so consider the source...
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: Marginal (?) push hand

I gotta say though, I'd rather push a marginal hand from the BB expecting limpers and min-raisers than praying UTG with A9

From the BB, you can hope to get 4x on your investment, whereas A9 UTG could only get you 2x.

This is a deeper question than I first thought.
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