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Old 09-16-2004, 03:13 AM
vipchump vipchump is offline
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Default Pushing with set when flush hits

Hey everyone. First time poster on SNG forum. UTG pushes small edges in this tourney, and BB average player. Its pretty late in two table tourney on stars. What do you think about this push on the turn? After I pushed, BB called time and waited 60 seconds before going all in himself. Thanks

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="C00000">Hero (t2760)</font>
SB (t1733)
<font color="C00000">BB (t3670)</font>
<font color="C00000">UTG (t3670)</font>
MP (t1667)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises to t200</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t200, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t100.

Flop: (t650) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t650) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets t500</font>, UTG calls t500, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t2560</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t3470</font>, UTG calls t2970 (All-In).

River: (t10150) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t10150
<font color="green">Main Pot: t8330 (t8330), between Hero, BB and UTG.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: t1820 (t1820), between Hero and BB.</font>
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Old 09-17-2004, 12:40 AM
vipchump vipchump is offline
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Default Re: Pushing with set when flush hits

Anybody? I thought it was a good move, but with straight and flush possibilities is this a bad push? Especially with the two already in?
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Old 09-17-2004, 12:54 AM
eastbay eastbay is offline
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Default Re: Pushing with set when flush hits

Probably the only play, I think. You're likely to get paid off by chasers, and even if the made flush is out, you still have outs to pair the board.

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Old 09-17-2004, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: Pushing with set when flush hits

bad call imo.

scary straight draws out.

A10, AJ already has you. a min raise is reasonable with those hands and a limp.

They coulda had KQ, KJ, J10 spades and got lucky on the turn.

I would have to lay it down here.

There are just too many possible hands that kill you.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:20 AM
parappa parappa is offline
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Default Re: Pushing with set when flush hits

I think I probably fold here. I posted a thread about a similar hand that got a reasonable amount of discussion. You can find it here.
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Old 09-17-2004, 07:40 AM
DCIAce DCIAce is offline
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Default Re: Pushing with set when flush hits

I don't think folding here is good at all. If you're behind, you've most likely got 10 outs, and are getting odds to chase them, closing the action.

Then again, if you're a catastrophist.. UTG must have KK, and BB has A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and you're drawing dead. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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