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Old 09-12-2004, 12:54 PM
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Excellent description of the situation by a blogger, Juan Cole, Professor of History at the University of Michigan. Thanks, Zeno, for the link!

Let us imagine you had a corporation with annual gross revenues of about $2 trillion. And let's say that in 2000, it had profits of $150 billion. So you bring in a new CEO, and within four years, the profit falls to zero and then the company goes into the red to the tune of over $400 billion per year. You're on the Board of Directors and the CEO's term is up for renewal. Do you vote to keep him in? That's what Bush did to the US government. He took it from surpluses to deep in the red. We are all paying interest on the unprecedented $400 billion per year in deficits (a deficit is just a loan), and our grandchildren will be paying the interest in all likelihood.

And what if you had been working for America, Inc. all your life, and were vested in its pension plan (i.e. social security)? And you heard that the company is now hemorrhaging money and that the losses are going to be paid for out of your pension? What if you thought you were going to get $1000 a month to retire on, and it is only going to be $500? Or maybe nothing at all? Because of the new CEO whose management turned a profit-making enterprise into an economic loser? Would you vote to keep him on?

What if the CEO convinced himself that the Mesopotamia Corp. was planning a hostile takeover? What if he had appointed a lot of senior vice-presidents who were either incompetent boobs or had some kind of backroom deal going with crooked brokers, and fed him false information that Mesopotamia Corp. was making a move and had amassed a big war chest for the purpose? And what if, to avoid this imaginary threat, he launched a preemptive hostile takeover of his own, spending at least $200 billion to accomplish it (on top of the more than $400 billion he is already losing every year)? Remember, it was a useless expenditure.

It turns out that Mesopotamia Corp. was a creaky old dinosaur with no cash reserves, and couldn't have launched a hostile takeover of the neighborhood mom and pop store. And, moreover, its arena of operations is extremely dangerous, and nearly a thousand America, Inc. workers get killed taking it over. And it turns out that the managers that the CEO put into Mesopotamia Corp. were bunglers. They adopted policies that made the taken-over employees bitter and sullen and uncooperative. Instead of standing on its own, the wholly owned subsidiary of Mesopotamia, Inc., requires continued infusion of capital from America, Inc. It looks increasingly as though Mesopotamia, Inc., will have to be let loose, and that its new managers will opt for interest-free Islamic banking as soon as they can.

Meanwhile, the real threat of a hostile takeover comes from al-Qaeda, Inc.

But because 138,000 employees had to be assigned to Mesopotamia, Inc., there are few left to meet that challenge!


L i n k : Scroll down to the article "The CEO Test for Bush", posted on Friday, September 03, 2004.
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Old 09-12-2004, 01:42 PM
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Let's not forget all the Board Members that the CEO appointed, who continue to make sweetheart deals for themselves, using Company resources that are technically owned by the Shareholders.

And then the Vice President of the Corporation comes out and
threatens the Shareholders with terrorist attacks, if they board is not upheld in the coming Shareholder vote.
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Old 09-12-2004, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: In November, the shareholders in USA Inc. get to vote

Completely retarded and it shows that the author has no concept of either corporations or of macro economic principles.

Cyrus - the fact that you posted this shows you lack the same knowledge. It also shows that girls (esp. over 40) shouldnt play with numbers [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-12-2004, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: In November, the shareholders in USA Inc. get to vote

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Completely retarded and it shows that the author has no concept of either corporations or of macro economic principles.

Cyrus - the fact that you posted this shows you lack the same knowledge. It also shows that girls (esp. over 40) shouldnt play with numbers [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The great thing about being a "Cyrus" is that it has no shame, no concept of being mistaken and no clue.

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Old 09-12-2004, 03:16 PM
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Default I Viteloni

Utah > "Girls (esp. over 40) shouldnt play with numbers!"

Jimbo > "Cyrus has no shame and no clue."

MMMMMM > "Amen!"

It's a great feeling knowing that I'm getting to you guys -- and cutting so deeply too! Have a nice day.

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Old 09-12-2004, 03:18 PM
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The great thing about being a "Cyrus" is that it has no shame, no concept of being mistaken and no clue.

Jimbo

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Amen.
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Old 09-12-2004, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: In November, the shareholders in USA Inc. get to vote

Typically Zeno, MMMMMM, Jimbo, or Wake Up refutation to a well reasoned analysis. Words that put together into sentences but say nothing.
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Old 09-12-2004, 05:32 PM
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a well reasoned analysis (by Cyrus?)

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LMAO, perhaps you would care to explain the validity of it's well reasoned analysis.

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Old 09-12-2004, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: In November, the shareholders in USA Inc. get to vote

It was not by Cyrus, he was just the bringer of the analysis. I guess you have trouble with simple comprehension.

Second, if it was not well reasoned then perhaps you might want to say something about the analysis. Rather than Zeno's non statement and your and MMMMMM sycophantic "amens"
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Old 09-12-2004, 06:07 PM
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Is that liberal-speak for: It isn't valid, I know it isn't valid so how could I ever offer an explanation?

Do you really think it (The Cyrus) needs your help? It doesn't even know what it is saying the majority of the time.

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