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Old 08-21-2004, 04:18 PM
ozyman ozyman is offline
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Default Board Pair, Big Pot

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (8 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (12 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB

I thought of raising the turn but couldn't get myself to do it. Anyone for a flop raise? Any help is appreciated.
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Old 08-21-2004, 04:32 PM
MrHorace MrHorace is offline
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Default Re: Board Pair, Big Pot

Interested in that I faced a similar situation last night in a live 2/4. I have A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] mid/late position. I raise, and if I recall correctly, I think I end up capping. Pot is big. Flop is all [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I think man, I have the nut flush. Let's play this not too fast to get $$. Instead of betting the flop, I check/raise. Big mistake I think. Turn is a J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. So I bet, raise, and get calls. River is another J, UGH!!
I lost to 8's full of J's. Point is, and one that I'm incredibly dense at (I've made the mistake 2 of last 3 sessions), when there is a pair on the board, and people are betting into you, you are probably beat!
As for your hand, I think raising the flop is a good idea. You'll find out how strong your opponents are (Providing you're not like me and THINK about what they're doing...when they call or raise you, you're probably second best), and also find out who has the 9. Definitely on the turn and river you maybe wanted to raise.
Hope this helps.
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Old 08-21-2004, 05:08 PM
balkii balkii is offline
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Default Re: Board Pair, Big Pot

I'd probably raise the flop - depending on the aggression level of the bettor. If I thought he would not 3-bet its an easy raise.
Turn I'd just call.
River I'd typically raise the first time, but if I misclicked I'd certainly 3-bet when SB raises. It really doesnt appear that either player has a boat.

If SB had trips he had the perfect opportunity to checkraise the field on the turn, and he didnt take it. So he either has 44 or a lower flush. I'll put my money on the lower flush. He could even have just trips, and waited till the river to raise (they do this sometimes).
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Old 08-23-2004, 09:25 AM
ozyman ozyman is offline
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Default Re: Board Pair, Big Pot

Wow, nice read on the SB, he did in fact have 44 for the boat. I know I have to get more aggresive with my raises and I think in this hand a flop or turn raise probably would have gotten him to fold his low pocket pair.
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Old 09-06-2004, 05:36 AM
RustedCorpse RustedCorpse is offline
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Default Re: Board Pair, Big Pot

I raise, call, raise, but I guess I would have lost more.
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