AJs hand quiz

[AdamL]

You raise utg with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and get two callers.

Flop:

10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

You bet. Both opponents call.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

You bet. Next player raises. 2nd opponent folds.

You?

[MarkD]

Call. I don't think it's close enough to bother doing the math.

[DiamondDave]

I almost always fold second pair when raised on the turn in a relatively small pot by a typical opponent in a low-limit game.

In 15/30 and 20/40 I run into more people who do the raise-the-turn-and-check-it-down-if-I-miss routine with combo draws. Tricky guys earn their river calls, but there is no reason to pay off straightforward players who raise the turn because they can beat one pair. Especially when your outs may be tainted.

[MarkD]

Count your outs, count the size of the pot, and if you are still convinced that folding the turn is correct convince me.

[sfer]

Folding is a disaster.

[LA_Price]

You have four outs for sure and possibly up to 9 outs if you count with the 3 Aces and 2 jacks(maybe even more if the bettor has JT or T2). Getting around 8:1 on your call I think folding would be wrong.

[AdamL]

Should you call a river bet if you don't improve on the river?

Also, would calling the turn still be right if the T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the flop was instead a 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]? (Hence removing the gutshot)

You'd still have 5 outs to what would probably be the best hand. That requires about 8.2:1 to call, and you're getting about that much.

[Danenania]

I'd call turn, call river. Between your outs and the chance you're still best calling down should make you money. A lot of players would do this with hands like QT, QJ, etc.

[DiamondDave]

Let's talk about outs. Hitting a Q on the river gives you (and anyone else with an ace) the nut straight. Hitting an ace on the river gives anyone with a Q a straight and gives you a payoff hand. Hitting a jack will allow you to draw out on one pair of kings, kings and tens, etc. But you may be up against top two or a set (or a straight), so the jack may not be an out.

I might consider calling if the pot were gigantic. But it isn't, not for a typical low-limit game. There will be a better opportunity to invest your chips in a few minutes.

[Guy McSucker]

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There will be a better opportunity to invest your chips in a few minutes.


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The question is not whether there will be a better opportunity soon, but whether this opportunity is a +EV one.

Guy.