Bowling for Sklansky Dollars

colgin · #1 08-19-2004, 09:17 AM

Table is very loose.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, CO (poster) calls, Button 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (21.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (21.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

River: (33.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, CO folds, Button calls, Hero folds, UTG folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 36.16 BB
Main Pot: 36.16 BB, between MP2, MP3 and Button.

Did I pump up my draw too much or just right.

Tosh · #2 08-19-2004, 09:27 AM

Um fold preflop?

Postflop played itself.

papawawa · #3 08-19-2004, 09:44 AM

Don't raise the turn on a draw like that; you're paying someone off.

Rico Suave · #4 08-19-2004, 09:49 AM

Colgin:

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Did I pump up my draw too much or just right.

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Flop is routine. I am not sure the raise is bad, but with 7 players seeing the turn on the 2 tone flop with that much action, and the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] unaccounted for, I probably do not make the turn value raise. But perhaps I am a 'fraidy cat.

Oh, and I fold this preflop.

--Rico

razor · #5 08-19-2004, 10:14 AM

He's just picked up 4 more outs giving him a total of about 5 Million, may as well get some more money in the pot...

razor · #6 08-19-2004, 10:22 AM

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the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] unaccounted for

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I may not raise here because A)I'm a little slow sometimes and it didn't cross my mind or B)I don't realize I have 5 Million outs or C)some other razor is ignorant reason... but it would never be because I'm worrying about Ax[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or Kx[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]... I'm stubborn the way.

nothumb · #7 08-19-2004, 10:28 AM

Preflop the odds that your suited queen is out-flush-drawn are pretty low, and once the flush draw comes off a Bayes whatchamacallit makes it even lower. If you were to lose this pot 10% of the time you make your hand, I think you still have a value raise here, with so many callers.

So I agree with you - not raising here is bad. I would definitely have pumped it.

I also would have folded pre-flop, so long as I was sober.

NT

InchoateHand · #8 08-19-2004, 10:34 AM

Agreed with everything, just wanted to note that the final qualifier, is a pretty big qualifier.

Rico Suave · #9 08-19-2004, 10:39 AM

Razor:

I admit I missed the additional outs with double belly buster. I need to go back to board reading 101. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

2:1 shot getting 5:1, yeah, that is quite an overlay. Passing it up is probably wrong.

--Rico

papawawa · #10 08-19-2004, 10:41 AM

good call, I didn't even realize the gutshot.