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Old 08-18-2004, 06:48 PM
RED_RAIN RED_RAIN is offline
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Default Pocket Ts versus a 2+2er (2/4)

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Notes on opponent
(128) Tight
SF: 21% / VP$IP: 17% / PFR: 7%
SD: 22% / W$SD: 50% / $Won: $36.

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 <font color="purple">(Tight 2+2er)</font> calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

I put on worst if unpaired, KQs. If he has Qs-As I would think 3 bet. He knows I'm a 2+2er and has played with me a before and knows that.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Tight 2+2er raises</font>, Hero calls.

Here I can't tell if I should 3 bet or just call down. I think I'm behind only KQ or JJ. I think he might do this with 9s. I don't think he would have preflop called with 8s. So not really sure. I thought the max time allowed. Just called down, probably not the best.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Tight 2+2er bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Tight 2+2er checks.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 6.75 BB, between Hero and Tight 2+2er.</font>

What does he have? Who won?
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Old 08-18-2004, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Ts versus a 2+2er (2/4)

His pf play is atrocious
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Ts versus a 2+2er (2/4)

3-bet the flop, it looks like he has a mid pair(88/99). Maybe he has KQs but he wont be able to raise you again with that so just keep firing.
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:05 PM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: Pocket Ts versus a 2+2er (2/4)

Worse than raising 42o UTG? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:10 PM
JDErickson JDErickson is offline
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Default Re: Pocket Ts versus a 2+2er (2/4)

Hmmm. I'm think maybe KQs or this type of hand. He decided to call rather than 3 bet it. On the river he was scared of the A and your PFR so checked.

I think you lost to a K
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Ts versus a 2+2er (2/4)

ewww he cold-called second in with KQs. tell him to raise more preflop too (not this hand, but in general). he also should've bet the river. you would've 3-bet the flop with AK or AA and probably would've mucked AQ/AJ/AT at some point. I'd be putting you on QQ, JJ, TT, or 99 if I were him. If he has 99 or 88 he should've mucked preflop and again on the flop.

Also, I think he should've called down here rather than raising the flop. raising here will only get him in trouble if he's behidn, and give you a reason to fold your underpair.

FWIW I probably would've mucked the flop with TT here, so I think you both misplayed your hands.

this hand was played very transparently from both sides. you could've left out both of your hands and I would've guessed you had JJ or TT (QQ less likely because he probably has KQs) and he had KQs.


sorry that's just a mass of words. I edited it like 5 times because I kept thinking of more stuff to say.

who's the 2+2er?
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:11 PM
JDErickson JDErickson is offline
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Default Re: Pocket Ts versus a 2+2er (2/4)

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he also should've bet the river.

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I agree
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: Pocket Ts versus a 2+2er (2/4)

Seeing as you got to the river, you should bet it. I don't know who your opponent is but I don't care much for his play here.
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Old 08-18-2004, 08:37 PM
RED_RAIN RED_RAIN is offline
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Default Re: Pocket Ts versus a 2+2er (2/4)

I PM'ed him and we'll see if he wants it to be known
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Old 08-18-2004, 08:38 PM
RED_RAIN RED_RAIN is offline
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Default Re: Pocket Ts versus a 2+2er (2/4)

Is your reasoning cause I'm ahead of a lot of hands or could get those that can catch me to fold on turn?

But what hands? 9s maybe, not 8s with his stats. Overs, maybe.
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