Bad beat or bad play?

hummusx · #1 08-14-2004, 12:14 AM

I figured KK and/or maybe the other AA. Anyway, the only real thought I had was that maybe after getting some of the money in there I should push and hope to take it down. Although I guess I've always gone with the idea was to get their money in the pot when you have AA.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

SB (t1050)
BB (t1695)
UTG (t1850)
Hero (t2210)
MP2 (t2435)
CO (t785)
Button (t960)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, Hero raises to t90, 4 folds, BB calls t60, UTG raises to t150, Hero raises to t400, BB calls t310, UTG raises to t650, Hero raises to t1200, BB calls t800, UTG calls t550.

Flop: (t3615) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t650 (All-In), Hero raises to t1010 (All-In), BB calls t495 (All-In).

Turn: (t5770) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: (t5770) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: t5770
Main Pot: t5100 (t5100), between BB, UTG and Hero. > Pot won by Hero (t5100).
Pot 2: t310 (t310), between UTG and Hero. > Pot won by Hero (t310).
Pot 3: t360 (t360), returned to Hero.

Results in white below: 
BB shows Kh Kc (one pair, kings).
UTG doesn't show.
Hero shows Ac Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins t5770.

fnurt · #2 08-14-2004, 12:27 AM

I am missing the bad beat aspect of this post. Converter issue?

hummusx · #3 08-14-2004, 12:29 AM

Problem with the converter it looks like. Here's what happened.

***** Hand History for Game 842406813 *****
jksbr: bluffer
30/60 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 5229457) - Sat Aug 14 00:00:08 EDT 2004
Table Three Table(52411) Table 1 (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: violat_her (1050)
Seat 2: mikkk (1695)
Seat 4: BomberBB (1850)
Seat 5: hummusx (2210)
Seat 7: DugeyHowser (2435)
Seat 8: idreamofaces (785)
Seat 10: Bubba_Jones (960)
violat_her posts small blind (15)
mikkk posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hummusx [ Ac, Ad ]
BomberBB calls (30)
hummusx raises (90) to 90
DugeyHowser folds.
idreamofaces folds.
Bubba_Jones folds.
violat_her folds.
mikkk calls (60)
BomberBB raises (120) to 150
hummusx raises (310) to 400
mikkk calls (310)
BomberBB raises (500) to 650
violat_her: pocket rockets
hummusx raises (800) to 1200
jksbr: and kings
mikkk calls (800)
BomberBB calls (550)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qd, 6h, 3h ]
jksbr: and queens
mikkk checks.
violat_her: nah pair of dueces
BomberBB bets (650)
BomberBB is all-In.
hummusx raises (1010) to 1010
hummusx is all-In.
mikkk calls (495)
mikkk is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 4h ]
Creating Main Pot with $5100 with mikkk
Creating Side Pot 1 with $310 with BomberBB
Creating Side Pot 2 with $360 with hummusx
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5100 | Side Pot 1: 310 | Side Pot 2: 360
Board: [ Qd 6h 3h 5d 4h ]
violat_her balance 1035, lost 15 (folded)
mikkk balance 5100, bet 1695, collected 5100, net +3405 [ Kd 7d ] [ a straight, three to seven -- 7d,6h,5d,4h,3h ]
BomberBB balance 0, lost 1850 [ Kh Kc ] [ a pair of kings -- Kh,Kc,Qd,6h,5d ]
hummusx balance 670, bet 2210, collected 670, lost -1540 [ Ac Ad ] [ a pair of aces -- Ac,Ad,Qd,6h,5d ]
DugeyHowser balance 2435, didn't bet (folded)
idreamofaces balance 785, didn't bet (folded)
Bubba_Jones balance 960, didn't bet (folded)

lastchance · #4 08-14-2004, 12:36 AM

Maybe you raise a bit more preflop? Having half your chips in preflop with AA.. I don't see how you can call that bad play.

But, I guess, in SnG, survival and not getting shortstacked is more important than accumulating chips, so if you're reraise for half your chip stack preflop, might as well go in for all of it, though it's a good play outside of SnG's.

hummusx · #5 08-14-2004, 12:39 AM

Well, specifically when do I raise more? I kept raising it, and there was nothing telling me either of them was about to drop. I didn't want to push too soon and end up with them both folding, although what I was thinking afterwards was that there might be a point where it'd be worth pushing in the hopes they'd fold. Frankly as far as we got, I really thought we'd have all of our chips in the pot before anyone decided to call instead of raise.

MHarris · #6 08-14-2004, 11:56 AM

The only thing i might do differently is push pre-flop after being re-raised. You're likely to be called in at least one spot, given the action. But there's nothing wrong with your play here. Well done.