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Old 08-12-2004, 11:48 AM
radek2166 radek2166 is offline
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Default K 10s Utg

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6.40 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (10.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.20 BB

Hows this look? Table is pasive for the most part. No read on MP2 his second or 3rd hand at the table.

Fold this preflop since I am oop?
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Old 08-12-2004, 12:11 PM
papawawa papawawa is offline
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Default Re: K 10s Utg

I would definetly check the flop, then depending on the action decide on your next move. Way too often you are dominated here by an opponent playing position on you. I think the preflop call is okay if you're sure you're going to get a lot of other limpers. However if you don't make the 4 flush or 3 flush w/a pair on the flop you should be looking for a reason to fold. He could have a better king, although it seems from the action 2pair or a set is more likely.
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Old 08-12-2004, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: K 10s Utg

With most of the other players out of the way, I'm comfortable just calling the raise on the flop with TPMK.

The preflop limp is fine at most tables.

Hopefully thiose 9s counterfeited a hand like K7 and you dragged the pot.
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Old 08-12-2004, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: K 10s Utg

With no raise PF and then a cap on the flop, this sure smells like two pair. K7 probably.
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Old 08-12-2004, 12:14 PM
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too often you are dominated here by an opponent playing position on you

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There are 5 hands that dominate you here ... AA, KK, AK, KQ, KJ ... the first 3 are very unlikely with no raise preflop. Its one thing to check from the blinds with this hand, but at this point you have to go ahead and bet.
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Old 08-12-2004, 12:19 PM
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Don't you think he got more info from his 3-bet and then the MP2's cap? If there were a couple callers would you 3-bet?
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Old 08-12-2004, 12:45 PM
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Since there was no preflop raise my thinking is bet out on the flop. I was raised so I reraised to see where I was at. He capped OH NO! Now what? Hmmmmm I looked at the pot went in to check down mode. I wll post the results in a bit.
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Old 08-12-2004, 12:50 PM
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Don't you think he got more info from his 3-bet and then the MP2's cap?

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What info is that? The only real info gained is that you are more likely to lose an additional BB now.

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If there were a couple callers would you 3-bet?

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Depends. I'm usually not looking to bloat the pot with TPMK.
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Old 08-12-2004, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: K 10s Utg

I would have:

Pre-Flop: Bet, Flop: Bet, but just called the raise. Turn: The same. River. The same.

Probably too tight-weak eh?

I'm just so worried about a pocket pair....
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Old 08-12-2004, 01:04 PM
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Don't you think he got more info from his 3-bet and then the MP2's cap?

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What info is that? The only real info gained is that you are more likely to lose an additional BB now.


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Could he have took the info from the 3-bet/cap and then check/fold the turn? It sure seems like MP2 has two pair or a set. Is the pot simply too big to even considering folding?
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