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Old 08-02-2004, 05:09 PM
The Armchair The Armchair is offline
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Default Logic Puzzle: \"Rock On\"

Before I leave work for the day:

You have of those counter-balance things and a big, 40-pound rock. You use the balance and the rock to measure out 40 pounds of hay, which he sells at the market.

Your annoying neighbor comes by and asks to borrow the rock. Begrudgingly, you agree, figuring not even he could mess up your 40 pound rock.

Bzzt.

He comes back a day later, hands in his face. He tells you that he broke your rock.

As you go for your hoe (the garden tool, you fool!), hoping to drive it into his back, he yells, "But wait! It's an improvement." A reasonable person, you hear him out.

"You now have four rocks. And I tested them on my super-accurate bathoom scale [which you've seen, and you trust], and it's really cool. With the four rocks, you can now find any weight on your counter-balance thingy, 1 to 40!"

He offers to let you weigh each of the rocks on his bathroom scale, to prove it to you. If he's telling the truth, what should each rock piece weigh?
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Old 08-02-2004, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: Logic Puzzle: \"Rock On\"

Assuming that we are only want weights to an integer. <font color="white">
2,4,11,23
Didn't go through all 40 but I'm pretty sure that you can get all weights with these.
</font>

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Old 08-02-2004, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: Logic Puzzle: \"Rock On\"

The correct answer is:
<font color="white">1, 3, 9, &amp; 27</font>
But I "cheated". I wrote a c++ app to find it for me.

To aloiz: How can a get a measurement of 1 from your combo?
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Old 08-02-2004, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Logic Puzzle: \"Rock On\"

Are you allowed to use a rock twice somehow? Otherwise I don't think it's possible. Clearly 1 must be there. If you can't somehow use it twice then you also need 2. Similarly you also need 4 and 8 and 16 and 32 which means you need more than 4 rocks and that their weight adds up to more than 40.
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Old 08-02-2004, 05:58 PM
AndysDaddy AndysDaddy is offline
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Default Re: Logic Puzzle: \"Rock On\"

You can measure a weight of 1 with no rock that weighs 1 (in white):
<font color="white">Put a 3 rock on one side, and a 2 rock and the object to be weighed on the other. If the object weighs 1, the scale will balance.</font>
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: Logic Puzzle: \"Rock On\"

I assumed you wouldn't be weighing anyting less than 1. So if anything is lighter than 2 pound rock it must be 1.

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Old 08-02-2004, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: Logic Puzzle: \"Rock On\"

clever. I'll have to give it some thought then.
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: Logic Puzzle: \"Rock On\"

The answer should be 3, 4, 12, and 21.

Still no good: Can't get a 23.
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:12 PM
AndysDaddy AndysDaddy is offline
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Default Re: Logic Puzzle: \"Rock On\"

Nice. I hadn't thought of that. But what about 3? More in White:
<font color="white">My guess is that you'll say that in two weighings if its more than 2, but less than 4 you know its 3. I believe an unstated assumption is that you can weigh any amount up to 40 in one weighing.</font>
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: Logic Puzzle: \"Rock On\"

Yea I would use two weighs, and you're probably right only one was to be allowed, so yours would be the only correct answer.

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