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Old 07-31-2004, 02:10 AM
Vehn Vehn is offline
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Crappy 30/60 at the track. Very good but somewhat LAG player raises UTG+1 seven handed. He's very tough and a good hand reader but apparently having a bad day. He plays very fast on the flop and especially if he has position. In fact he almost never backs down. I usually do not play fast on the flop heads up. Folded to me and I call in the big blind with JTo. Flop is T T 5 rainbow. I check EP bets I raise EP 3 bets I 4 bet EP 5 bets I 6 bet EP says "You got a ten?" and calls. Turn is 6 I bet EP raises. Now what?
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Old 07-31-2004, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: 5 bb good enough?

"Now what?"

You're done unless the board pairs or you hit a ten.
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Old 07-31-2004, 02:23 AM
Steve Giufre Steve Giufre is offline
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Default Re: 5 bb good enough?

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"Now what?"

You're done unless the board pairs or you hit a ten.

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Hopefully if the board pairs, the other guy doesnt make 4 of a kind.
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Old 07-31-2004, 03:25 AM
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hi vehn

call and check-raise the river. if you reraise here, you'll lose him.
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Old 07-31-2004, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: 5 bb good enough?

If someone asks whether you have a T, that means he has either AT or, more likely, 55.
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Old 07-31-2004, 10:11 AM
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If someone asks whether you have a T, that means he has either AT or, more likely, 55.

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BINGO
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Old 07-31-2004, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: 5 bb good enough?

Open raising standards for UTG+1 inlcude 10-8 suited 10-9 and j10 especialy in this game especialy when he was stuck. So you dont nessicarily have to be beat here, but theres probably a 80% shot he doesnt have a PP thats not a full house. He still could have 77-99 though trying to get you to fold 99 or jj or something.
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Old 07-31-2004, 01:40 PM
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River a Jack.
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Old 07-31-2004, 03:07 PM
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Mike called me and told me you posted this hand and was dying to know what I had...so here it is... my logic was that you called me in a heads up pot when I raised from UTG+1 and that, to me, meant you had a pretty strong hand... honestly, I thought the only probable ten you could have was A10... goes to show how much I don't know about your play style...
anyways, as the action ensues on the flop, I am thinking you must have a legitimate hand and by the sixth bet it's either QQ, KK, A10 or 44 (flop was actually TT4)... unfortunately for me, I can only beat two of these four hands with my AA. The decision to raise the turn was truly an information play. I know this seem a bit silly after six betting the flop, but you know as well as I do that we play awfully fast against each other. Actually, this is something I am not sure if the other posters here can understand... Neither of us plays nearly as well when forced to play against another aggro HU.
So, I raise the turn expecting to fold if I get three bet and bet the river if you call... then something in the way you call the turn makes me chicken out on the river... that's my true thought process on the hand, take it for what it's worth...
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Old 07-31-2004, 03:15 PM
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this is limit, call down.... and raise if the board pairs, a ten hits, or a jack falls
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